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Comment by markus_zhang

8 days ago

Who is going to do that? Obviously not in anyone's interests. That is, anyone who can push the situation towards that direction.

You’re either missing my point or deflecting. Let me expand one last time.

Israel claims to be threatened by its neighbors. Israel claims to want peace with countries in the region. Neighboring countries have repeatedly stated that a precondition to normalization is a just solution for Palestinians. But Israel does not want a just solution.

In other words, the problem is entirely self-inflicted. Israel wants peace, but without making any concessions on the issue of Palestine. So instead it pursues a system of “peace through violence” - just like it does in the West Bank and Gaza.

  • There peace with Jordan and Egypt. 2 countries that were at war with Israel, Egypt got Sinai back, Jordan did not want the West Bank back.

    • What do you mean by “back”? The West Bank was never legitimately part of Jordan - they forcibly annexed it in 1948.

      As for the peace treaties:

      Jordan simply did not have the ability to fight Israel any longer, or to deal with Palestinian factions operating in its territory.

      Egypt wanted its land back after failing to reclaim it in 1973.

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  • This is bullshit. Between 1948 and 1967 the entire West Bank and Gaza were under control of neighbouring Arab countries. They could’ve set up a Palestinian state within “the 1967 borders”, but nobody did. Instead they went to war to try and take the rest.

    Besides, Israel has since made peace with Egypt and Jordan.

    • Okay, and? Do you think the fact that neighbors having their own expansionist ambitions is somehow a “gotcha”? And given the whole Greater Israel plan, do you seriously think that Israel would have even allowed this to happen?

      Now, back to the present day. Palestinians live under a system of occupation and blockade and recently genocide. This is not a just situation. It is also not sustainable without continued repression and use of force. There is no way that Israel will be welcomed into the wider ME under this regime.

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