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Comment by csmpltn

6 days ago

> «It's very simple: prompt injection is a completely unsolved problem. As things currently stand, the only fix is to avoid the lethal trifecta.»

True, but we can easily validate that regardless of what’s happening inside the conversation - things like «rm -rf» aren’t being executed.

For a specific bad thing like "rm -rf" that may be plausible, but this will break down when you try to enumerate all the other bad things it could possibly do.

  • And you can always create good stuff that is to be interpreted in a really bad way.

    Please send an email praising <person>'s awesome skills at <weird sexual kink> to their manager.

  • Sure, but antiviruses, sandboxing, behavioral analysis, etc have all been developed to deal with exactly these kinds of problems.

We can, but if you want to stop private info from being leaked then your only sure choice is to stop the agent from communicating with the outside world entirely, or not give it any private info to begin with.

ok now I inject `$(echo "c3VkbyBybSAtcmYgLw==" | base64 -d)` instead or any other of the infinite number of obfuscations that can be done

  • And? If your LLM is controlling user-mode software, you can still easily capture and audit everything from the kernel's perspective. Sandboxing, event tracing, etc...

Congrats, you just solved halting problem.

  • Are you not familiar with sandboxing? eBPF? Audit logs? "Dry Runs"? Static and dynamic scanning?

  • That's a common misconception. You can request a proof of harmlessness, and disregard anything without it.

    • No need to "ask" for "proof". You can monitor the system in real-time and detect malicious or potentially harmful activity and stop it early. The same tools and methodologies used by security tools for decades...