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Comment by knivets

8 days ago

this is not their data though

Neither was the data LLMs were trained on.

At least this isn't saddled with a profit motive and the destruction of the consumer computing market.

there's a difference between a book and data or music and data. that is their data. if you have a painting and i take a picture of it and store it on my drive. it's my data, i don't own the copyright to it tho, but it's my data and not your data even tho it's a picture of your painting.

It is. They gathered it. They stored it. They served it. That's how data should work and eventually will.

  • Genuine question on your perspective , I found and serve a picture of you and your wife having a meal that you once posted on myspace.

    Does that make it my data? If not why? What makes these 1s and 0s uniquely yours?

    • When you posted the picture to myspace under the terms of their user agreement you granted them unlimited rights to redistribute that image to anyone in the world.

      If you care about privacy don't post private stuff online.

    • Yup. That's your data now. And also mine (if I have a backup) and also myspace's.

      The fact that makes it your data is that you physically can share it with someone else.

      At least that's the value system I live by and I believe should be in place for all because it perfectly reflects the reality of what happens with ones and zeroes.

    • I'd say that it'd be your data but you might not be the copyright holder. But if the data is on a storage media that you own, I would consider it your data.

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    • Where did you find that picture? If the person printed it out and plastered it on a nearby signpost for everyone to see, I'd say it is no longer personal data.

  • I'm not sure why you're being downvoted when You're just describing typical Internet behavior. How many archive or search engines have come and gone that have scraped, saved, and served data from other sources (verbatim no less) with little to no scrutiny?