Comment by yes_really
4 days ago
> If you are arguing in good faith, why are you not reading what you are arguing about
I literally just rebuked you for falsely accusing me of arguing in bad faith. You now falsely accuse me of failing to read.
I obviously read the comment. I literally quoted the comment in my reply.
> I literally quoted the comment in my reply.
You selectively quoted the comment in your reply, leaving out some crucial information in order to set up a straw man argument.
I just helpfully pointed this out to you, because you were asking why someone was accusing you of arguing in bad faith. You can do with that whatever you wish.
If you are interested in why it's easy to recognize your way or arguing ( and I just want to note that it was not me who accused you of 'bad faith' argumentation in the first place), I can recommend Schopenhauer's "Die Kunst Recht zu behalten"[0] - your original
> To be clear, do you think it's bad to use technology to detect and stop terrorism?
shows up there as Chapter 7 "Yield Admissions Through Questions" among others.
You will note that I gave you an entire explanation to your specific assertions instead of just pointing to some book.
The thing about that is, though, that it's a bit boring sometimes because It often seems like every thought has already been though before. We humans seem to like to go in a circle. Just like the two us are doing right now.
I hope you have great rest of the week.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Being_Right
> You selectively quoted the comment in your reply, leaving out some crucial information in order to set up a straw man argument.
You are wrong again. I quoted the comment as "he wouldn't take their word as to whom they're fighting" to highlight how the comment is denying that Israel is fighting terrorism. It is quite simple. There is no crucial information to be left out. Also it doesn't make sense to call that a "straw man argument" given that I simply repeated his comment and highlighted why it was absurd.
> I just helpfully pointed this out to you, because ...
Oh yeah, you were so helpful!
Yes, I do believe Israel is using 'fighting terrorism' as cover for 'changing reality on the ground' (genocide of Palestinians in Gaza and at the very least displacement and ethnic cleansing in the West Bank).
No I do not believe Jewish people as a general group are part of any conspiracy or whatever nonsense you tried to bring up to deflect from addressing the facts I pointed out in my comments.
You then had the meaning of my comments explained very well to you and still refused to address them.
To put it as plainly as possible and beyond doubt, so that even you can understand, when Israel says they're fighting terrorism, it's not that such a thing would be bad, it's that they're doing things that do not fit that metric by any stretch of the imagination, (mass murder of civilians, using starvation as a weapon of war, holding hostages indefinitely without a fair trial, imprisoning children, using area weapons in heavily populated urban areas, appropriating land that is not theirs, assisting Israeli terrorists in terrorizing Palestinians in the West Bank, attacking countries despite a 'ceasefire' etc,)
The fact that it was you who brought Jewish people into the conversation when they weren't mentioned before, as if either you or Israel spoke for them, shows that your argument was in bad faith.