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Comment by roxolotl

15 hours ago

This is a great example of how silly this whole thing is. There’s next to nothing to these claws. Turns out that if you give an llm the ability to call APIs they will.

What’s most shocking to me about the whole OpenClaw hype is how little people in tech seem to know about computers…

It’s like most of the industry hasn’t ever looked any deeper than their node_modules folder.

  • I don't care whether openclaw is built out of ice cream and sprinkles, I will still be amazed as a tech person

    If something can automate my professional or personal life, it is wild technology and ppl will talk about it a lot. People are not idiots. A new thing is happening, would you not agree?

    What its parts are specifically made of, it does not matter imho

    • This is an ostrich-head-in-the-sand type of outlook. If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it?

      It's important to know what goes into building *claws because of how pervasive they are; sooner or later because of all the hype they'll start being used everywhere and if people take your attitude it's a disaster waiting to happen.

      Giving them unfettered access to your life and not even wonder if the foundation is solid is concerning imho.

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  • Honestly does show how the industry has failed to bring simple things like localized cron and scheduling to personal compute too.

    These things seem powerful when you can schedule reoccurring scripts l but it never was easily accessible to the masses.

    • > Honestly does show how the industry has failed to bring simple things like localized cron and scheduling to personal compute too.

      I looked at task scheduling on Windows and while the UI was usable, I cannot imagine any regular person using that. Just doing crontab -e feels way simpler and has less friction, BUT it doesn't really help you much with task statuses and re-running them and reporting/alerting/notifications (past MTA) and all the stuff, past "Oh hey, every day at 04:00, run this shell script."

      I wonder why people haven't gotten the green light from their bosses or investments to improve OS functionality and write tools that improve general usability and just slap some basic AI on top of that for the checkmark: "Hey boss, I spent the last month and wrote a task scheduling and management GUI for Windows that's really approachable, we can totally also use this for the current AI/Copilot/claw trend wink wink."

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  • > It’s like most of the industry hasn’t ever looked any deeper than their node_modules folder.

    Most didn't do even that. And yes it is shocking. amusing but also not really; now those people get credible tech jobs because of AI without actually understanding literally anything. That's why I don't get the 'AI will never replace tech people' -> most tech people were never tech people, just (resume lying) grifters and they can (and will) be easily replaced by claude or even glm. It's the vast majority of tech people I ran into at big corps in the past 20 years, especially if they are from outsourcing hubs; they just see programming/tech as trial and error, search google (now ask AI), copy/paste, see if it runs, repeat. I see people daily that cannot remember how variables work (and they often have a bachelor or even master in CS...), not even 5 minutes, they just ask ai and copy/paste it (yep also most don't know claude code exists, they use chatgpt Windows client or, if they are advanced, Copilot).

    HN is a nice echo chamber and most people here don't believe it's that bad and that's why they don't believe AI has a chance. Please come with me to Barclays or Shell (or straight to Wipro etc) or so and let's have a chat with some programmers! Your jaw will be on the floor.

  • You have to believe me this time!

    The homogenization of your computing life to revolve around a chatbot in a loop———is all you need!

    Give in! Hackernews NEEDS you to use the 1000th vibecoded clawmolt because the influencers said so! Who needs neural net or web framework experience when you have claws?

I've been developing one of these in the past few days, and this is like saying "this is a great example of how silly the whole thing is, there's next to nothing to cars" because you saw a piece of plywood with four gaskets nailed to it.

If you want a personal assistant to work well, there's a whole lot to it.

  • Having a similar experience. Durable memory with accurate, low-latency recall is not at all easy. Loads of subtle design decisions to make around how exactly you want the thing to work.

If it turns out that there is significant value in everyone having their own personal agent running 24/7, we might end up needing a lot more compute than anticipated.

(It’s a big if! I’m not convinced about that myself, but it’s worth considering that possibility.)

  • I am struggling to understand what a personal agent/assistant would do to me. If I need reminders I just enter calendar entries on my smartphone, what else?

  • I am using a claw. I am not ready to give it access to much but web and cron plus a chat channel is useful and feels more light touch than typical AI sessions and UIs

    • I use opencode, cerebras GLM with some mcps for that. It's so lovely because you press enter and there is the answer already.