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Comment by fc417fc802

4 days ago

We need regulation requiring ISPs to care. In the US they will severely reduce your speeds (if not outright cancel your account) over repeated DMCA complaints so why can't they do the same for reported botnet activity?

I guess logistically they'd need a way to assess if the problem had been resolved though. It would be pretty challenging to validate reports and then follow up on them in an automated manner. There's not going to be much budget for this after all. Still you'd think it could be done for the largest (and thus well understood) botnets.

DMCA complaints are generally something the user chose to do. Most users aren't choosing to participate in botnets. I'm not sure it's appropriate to punish users like this for something that isn't their fault and that they likely won't know how to fix.

  • When my house catches on fire I probably don't have the tools to put it out, but I am obligated to call the fire department before it burns down the neighborhood.

    • If your house catches fire because an electrician fucked up, and it catches other houses on fire, are you responsible for it?

      Not to mention that, while you may be responsible for calling it in, you are certainly not responsible for fighting it yourself

  • Why not? It wouldn't be acceptable in any other context - like running a lawn mower that spits oil onto your neighbor's lawn.

DMCA requests lead to legal consequences for ISP's in extreme cases. Botnets meanwhile there's no "lobby groups" that are directly impacted enough to 'care' at a financial level

I agree it does require regulation. There would be better odds for regulations in the US if you could show that regulating ISPs can help funnel taxpayer money to billionaires and their grifting cronies. The US has a history with ISPs, they were given fat subsidies to build out their networks and then they did not do that.