Comment by HauntingPin
7 hours ago
Okay, so what official sources do you base your definition of price dumping on? Nobody is asking for your opinion on what you think price dumping is. This is a legally recognised thing, not just some random talking point.
The normal price is not the same as the market price. The normal price is what we had last year. The market price is higher than normal, due to a sudden demand spike and production shifting to HBM.
More manufacturing capacity coming online to return the price to normal is not dumping, it's how markets are supposed to operate.
Dumping would be e.g. if China used subsidies to sell DRAM at a price below what unsubsidised manufacturers can sell at, in an effort to push them out of the market.
Normal price is a technical term I assume. Is it just a historical price, or is it knowable without market based price discovery?
It's more that definitions are made with an assumption of normal market conditions but what's happened in the DRAM market is extreme. Production of conventional DRAM package types has evaporated, while the demand is unchanged or increasing, because of new demand for HBM which is even more profitable.
So some common sense is required: yes under normal circumstances selling below the market price is dumping, but when the market price looks like a vertical line because of a sudden shock then you can't really take the market price too seriously. Mostly the price of DRAM is not set on the open market but is negotiated via contracts between the major players so there isn't really one price of DRAM at the moment. If you're a big customer like Apple you can get a price that is completely different from what you or I can get fighting for scraps on eBay.