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Comment by RobotToaster

8 hours ago

> lidars don't work well in rain/snow/fog.

Neither do cameras, or eyeballs.

When it's not safe to drive, it's not safe to drive.

I've been in zero-road-speed whiteout conditions several times. The only move to make is to the side of the road without getting stuck, and turning on your flashers.

Low-light cameras would not have worked. Sonar would not have worked. Infrared would not have worked.

  • I think the weather where cameras/sensors start having problems is much better than zero-vis whiteout.

    If we could make sensors that lets an autonomous vehicle drive reliably in any snow/rain where a human could drive (although carefully) then we're good. But we are a long way from that. Especially since a lot of sensor tech like cameras tend to fail in 2 ways, both through their performance being worse in adverse condition but also simply failing to function at all if they are covered in ice/snow/water.

If you have multi-return lidar, you can see through certain occlusions. If the fog/rain isn't that bad, you can filter for the last return and get the hard surface behind the occlusion. The bigger problem with rain is that you get specular reflection and your laser light just flies off into space instead of coming back to you. Lidar not work good on shiney.