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Comment by lproven

1 day ago

> Rust is the final language.

I honestly can't tell if this is a humorous attack or not.

Poe's law is validated once again.

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echelon  1 day ago

It's honest. If we can serialize our ideas to any language for durability, Rust is the way to go.

It's not the best tool for the job for a lot of things, but if the LLMs make writing it as fast as anything else - whelp, I can't see any reason not to do it in Rust.

If you get any language outputs "for free", Rust is the way to go.

I've been using Claude to go ridiculously fast in Rust recently. In the pre-LLM years I wrote a lot of Rust, but it definitely was a slow to author language. Claude helps me produce it as fast as I can think. I spend most of my time reviewing the code and making small fixes and refactors. It's great.

  • hathawsh  1 day ago

    While Rust is excellent, you must acknowledge that Rust has issues with compilation time. It also has a steep learning curve (especially around lifetimes.) It's much too early to say Rust is the "final" language, especially since AI is driving a huge shift in thinking right now.

    I used to think that I would never write C code again, but when I decided recently to build something that would run on ESP32 chips, I realized there wasn't any good reason for me to use Rust yet. ESP-IDF is built on C and I can write C code just fine. C compiles quickly, it's a very simple language on the surface, and as long as you minimize the use of dynamic memory allocation and other pitfalls, it's reliable.

    • 0x457  1 day ago

      If you're programming for ESP, then embassy is the way to go in most cases. You don't need to learn much about lifetimes in most of the application code. Steep learning curve people refer it is "thing blow up at compile time vs runtime." It's easy to write JS or C that passes all tests and compiles and then wonderful blows up when you start using it. It just forces you to learn things you need to know at IMO right now.

      My biggest problem with rust right now is enormous target/ dirs.

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    • Foobar8568  14 hours ago

      I feel compilation time is unbearable in Rust, even on MacBook pro M3 max, don't get me started on space

  • jibal  1 day ago

    > It's honest.

    It's not, nor is it well informed. People are currently developing languages specifically for use by LLMs.

    > It's not the best tool for the job for a lot of things

    Then how could it possibly be the final language?

    > if the LLMs make writing it as fast as anything else - whelp, I can't see any reason not to do it in Rust

    This has nothing to do with the claim that it's the final language.