Comment by fyredge
1 day ago
This sounds a lot like the pro-gun rhetoric of bogging down the "good" gun owners but not doing enough to the "bad" gun owners.
1 day ago
This sounds a lot like the pro-gun rhetoric of bogging down the "good" gun owners but not doing enough to the "bad" gun owners.
It's not really the same. The good guy/bad guy gun rhetoric has deeply racist roots.
But beyond that we can look at places similar things have been rolled out.
Facebook has a real name policy and is overflowing with fraudsters and ai slop
Although I can't figure out how to sign up for a second telegram account with their phone number restriction that hasn't stopped multiple scammers hitting me up every day on the service.
On YouTube, their demographics has ladies in their 30s watching nursery rhyme videos by the millions because mothers give their children their phone.
On social media, scammers tend to take over the accounts of dead people because the deceased don't update their passwords after a data breach. Your ID card policy, however strict, isn't going to stop the most common attack vector
So I don't know what you're trying to solve with id checks: parents hand their logged in devices to their children, scammers raid the accounts of the verified dead, existing systems clearly aren't working and strictly enforcing ineffective security theater isn't going to change this
I'm all for empathizing with the concerns but doing something that doesn't work isn't a solution
On telegram and YouTube, I take your points, thank you.
To be honest, I find many holes the ID method myself and it stems from the free and abundant nature of the internet where anything goes everywhere. If I could take an analogy, it's like we have allowed casinos to be built all around the neighborhood and now have no political will to stop children from entering, though I do concede that it's much easier to stop a child from entering a casino than access to internet. Perhaps China was on to something with the great firewall, though I doubt the efficacy of that method as well.
But back to the use of ID, is there not an argument to be made that doing something is better than nothing? Personally, I would like the banning of algorithmic content and that online peers should only be found through intent and not recommended by the platform, but I digress.