Comment by throw310822
1 month ago
> Hamas was the first to cast the stone.
Palestine is a country under a brutal military occupation and progressive illegal colonisation that has been going on for 80 years. Before October 7, Israel had already killed many, many more civilians in Gaza than Hamas did in Israel with that attack.
> Palestine is a country under a brutal military occupation and progressive illegal colonisation that has been going on for 80 years.
If Mexico had started attacking the US across the border, what would the US do? I'm curious to hear what you think a country should do in this circumstance.
Are the US currently illegally occupying large parts of Mexico and progressively colonising it, displacing and oppressing the Mexican population?
And if that were the case, would you say that Mexico had started attacking the US across the border? Or would you say that the US are waging war against Mexico and Mexico is fighting back?
This comment would depress a highschool history teacher.
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You have the timeline backwards. Palestinians attacked Jews first, then Jews occupied the invaders.
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> Israel had already killed many, many more civilians in Gaza than Hamas did in Israel with that attack.
And how does it justify Hamas killing unarmed civilians? How does it justify Hamas lobbing grenades at Nepali students?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0kllzqk1vo
That's not what I am answering to, but the assertion "Hamas threw the first stone". No it didn't.
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There isn't really a single way to define a country. For background, I would recommend this video from the Map Men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nB688xBYdY
But following their conclusion: the thing that makes you a country is being recognized as one by other countries. Most of the world recognizes Palestine as a country (including 157 UN member states). Here is a map where the green countries recognize Palestine, and grey do not: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Palestin...
What are the Palestinians then?
Historically, Palestine has never been a country. The Romans captured Judea, and later expelled the Jews and renamed the province Syria Palaestina (after previous enemies of the Jews). After the Romans, many other empires held the land: the Arabs, Mamluks, Turks, British. But at no point was it a country. Even when the Egyptians and Jordanians captured Gaza and the West Bank, they didn't give independence to Palestine. Israel captured Gaza/West Bank. They gave full control to Gaza in 2005. So you could say Gaza is a country now.
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oh nice, you are making us all sob with those tough words
Many countries disagree with that. However, virtually everyone agree that it is not Israeli territory.
When you know what father of Israel did during WW2 to fund the current Israel.
Uhg, too bad its not taught in school coz history is written by winners and you have to search for it yourself.
Yes Israel commits an ongoing genocide.
And I look at this only by lens of history.