Comment by defrost
1 month ago
> But surely, the different tribes in Australia also moved around and replaced each other?
Read article, chase up the papers, evidence says "no".
The Tasmanians and the Noongars (Southern most to east, southern most to west) have genetically been in place a long time and had no one to replace.
The article mentions "genetic diversity" between east, west, centre, north, south, etc - that comes from not mixing.
"But surely..." <-- gut feelings? You should joinn Quadrant.
> If a tribe moved from southern Australia to the north and replaced another tribe
Do you have any evidence of that?
> who gets the land now?
There's a wealth of material on Mabo, Land rights, Native title, et al that address all that - if you're generally curious it's there to read.
eg: starting with, say https://aiatsis.gov.au/explore/mabo-case
Ok, then we settled who gets Australia.
Sorry for shifting the goalposts now, but we still need a method to determine what to do with the rest of the earth, right? Who gets to stay in the different parts of Europe for example?
"We" haven't settled anything .. neither of us is an expert or player in the domain of indigenuous land ownership.
Your "assertion" (weakly stated) was
> I’m pretty sure every tribe that’s considered indigenous now at any place has replaced some other group that lived there before them.
which is _false_.
A single counter example suffices, the Māori people of New Zealand are still in a shared treaty with European settlers and no prior humans were displaced by the Māori people when they first arrived circe 1320 or so.
Australia and that region offer up many many other examples.
> Who gets to stay in the different parts of Europe for example?
I cannot see how this is related to your global assertion nor can I see how I'm responsible to answer it.
The original problem is whether there is a "statute of limitations" for being indigenous.
Even when my original assertion that every single tribe replaced another tribe at some point is wrong, there still needs to be some mechanism do determine what to do with the rest of the world where my claim applies.