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Comment by BLKNSLVR

5 days ago

More government intervention in private enterprise? This pattern seems to be gathering steam, does that mean they're now subscribing to this model?

Or is this just par for the course and has always been going on, it's just the reporting is different, or the current context makes it more of a sensitive topic?

No, this is very unusual. The US government taking a 10% stake in intel is very unsual.

There have been a few cases where national security has prompted the government to nationalize private institutions: the Railroads in WWI, steel mills in the korean war, CINB which was deemed a security risk by being too large a bank.

This admin has so far acted like a kleptocracy and, like, because of the Epstein files if they lose power many will go to jail, so there's a huge incentive to remain in power.

Wars are good for remaining in power. Dictatorship is good for remaining in power.

This is all very, very, very unusual in US history (except maybe when businesses tried to overthrow the government in the 30s but we don't talk about that).

  • > This admin has so far acted like a kleptocracy and, like, because of the Epstein files if they lose power many will go to jail, so there's a huge incentive to remain in power.

    I find this to be unrealistic worry. Just like with mee too, the perpetrators will eventually be protected. Just like with any previous abuses, including war crimes and so on, high level people will be protected first, celebrated second and then we will collectively move onto pretending they were being treated unjustly the whole time.

    The amount of people who think that the real victims of abuse are perpetrators and real wrongdoers are victims who talk about it is just too high. It is rarely openly framed or phrased this way, the used words are always nicer, but this is the overall theme of the things.

    • Former trump adviser Steve Bannon said:

      "If we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison, myself included."

      Seems like it's not so unrealistic.

      In the UK and other parts arrests have already been made and in the US the FBI director is drinking beers.

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  • > (except maybe when businesses tried to overthrow the government in the 30s but we don't talk about that)

    That doesn't feel familiar at all! This clearly is just yet another wrong, completely bonkers conspiracy-theory! Just like all the others! No cheese pizza eating billionaires would ever even think of this!

  • >This admin has so far acted like a kleptocracy and, like, because of the Epstein files if they lose power many will go to jail, so there's a huge incentive to remain in power.

    This is a bold claim that requires some evidence to accompany it.

    So far there's been very little in the Epstein files to implicate anyone of consequence in any criminal activities.

    When the rare documents that actually did offer evidence of potentially criminal behavior surfaced, Andrew and Mandelson were swiftly arrested. We can see that the evidence is being acted upon, it's just not very exciting.

    • > So far there's been very little in the Epstein files…

      Numbers get thrown around, some suggesting only 2% of the files have been released.

      I'm confident that even if 99% of the files were eventually released that the last 1% held back are far and away the most damning.

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Yes, the government pays (lots of money) for Claude Gov that they use on their networks.

In my experience they very much do not want to be told what they can and can not do with the things they purchase. I’m surprised the deal got done at all with these restrictions in place.

  • Purchasing a service is different from purchasing the company, though.

    As such I agree with the surprise at the deal getting done at all.