Comment by kennywinker
1 month ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_...
> the single deadliest conflict for journalists in all known conflicts in the history of the world, according to the Costs of War Project
Does that sound like “par for the course”?
By that measure, every other army in every other war prior has done better.
This “war” (genocide) is not normal.
This list seems to include people who were journalists but weren't killed while acting in the capacity of a journalist (as far as i can tell). If this is how you define journalist then world war 2 was certainly much much deadlier for journalists. To put it bluntly, i have my doubts that its making an apples to apples comparison with other conflicts.
The nature of journalism has changed since ww2, but the comparison isn’t ww2 vs gaza - it’s EVERY SINGLE WAR SINCE.
So unless you have some clear evidence that the definition of journalist is different in other conflicts, you’re just making excuses.
The post used the phrase "all known conflicts in the history of the world". Is world war 2 not a known conflict?
I do not know how many journalists were killed in most conflicts. I do know more than 242 were killed during world war 2, so on its face the claim seems false that it is the deadliest war for journalists in the history of the universe.
The only way their claim can possibly make sense is if they are using different definitions between wars. I'm assuming that to give them the benefit of the doubt. The only alternative explanation i can see is they are straight up lying.
I don't know enough to verify related claims, like deadliest for journalists post world war 2. However given the source seems to be blatently incorrect, i'm not really inclined to believe them on related claims.
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Yeah - for example Abdullah Ahmed Al-Jamal was killed because he was holding three hostages in his apartment, yet he was included in the list of "journalists killed" anyway.
That’s not quite right.
There were three hostages in his father’s apartment. He was also staying there, but the home belonged to his father.
But ok, have a look at what went down that day:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuseirat_rescue_and_massacre
> the Israeli military killed at least 276 people and injured over 698
Or if you don’t want to believe anybody but the IDF, “The Israeli military acknowledged fewer than 100 Palestinian deaths”
In order to what? What was the cause of the murder of 276 (or 100) people?
To rescue 4 hostages.
Well, I should say more likely in retribution for the holding of those hostages… the air strikes that killed the majority of people appear to have happened AFTER they had extracted the hostages.
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