Comment by DonHopkins
1 day ago
I'm sorry, but you've got to be a delusional lunatic to attempt to defend that kind of brazen biblical gaslighting. I don't agree with it because it's absolutely objectively insane and mendacious and unjustifiable in any context, no matter how much insincere self-serving apologetics and white-washing you can dig up. And your leaping to its defense is just as evil.
And even if you fully buy into and defend that reality-denying fairy tale, you still have to justify the institutionalized cannibalism and vampirism. It's a sick, sick, crucification fetishizing death cult.
And on top of that, as you very well know and can't deny, the Catholic Church and you complicit enablers also defend and support and perpetuate thousands of years of worldwide institutionalized child rape and pedophilia.
No wonder Catholics are so supportive of and defensive about Trump and Epstein -- your church rapes orders of magnitude more children over more millennia than even Epstein could afford or thirst for, and they're still doing it and hiding it and refusing to pay the consequences thanks to people who still cheerfully carry their water like you.
If you don't support cannibalism, vampirism, rape, and pedophilia, you are free to leave the church, but for God's sake, stop hypocritically defending it and the horrible things it does even if you selfishly choose to remain in the cult! Didn't your bible teach you to have some shame?
> I'm sorry, but you've got to be a delusional lunatic to attempt to defend that kind of brazen biblical gaslighting. I don't agree with it because it's absolutely objectively insane and mendacious and unjustifiable in any context, no matter how much insincere self-serving apologetics and white-washing you can dig up. And your leaping to its defense is just as evil.
These are all priors that I don't necessarily agree with. Ad hominems aren't really convincing arguments.
> you still have to justify the institutionalized cannibalism and vampirism
Are you now just making shit up? Or do you have any evidence, that the Holy See thinks fairies and vampires are real?
> the Catholic Church and you complicit enablers also defend and support and perpetuate thousands of years of worldwide institutionalized child rape and pedophilia.
It is true that priests raped children at least in the last century, to me explainable, as priests are also only a cross-section from the general population. It is also true, that diocese administrations hide reports and didn't report them to the local law enforcement. That is indeed shameful. I am not aware that they defended and supported rape. That sounds like a made-up claim. Same for that it is somehow institutionalized. These priests were still prosecuted by the law of the Church. The information that surfaces now, also comes from evidence collected as part of legal proceedings in the Catholic Church. However sending someone to prison is none of the Churchs business. Most nations on earth would rightfully object to the Catholic Church issuing prison sentences to their citizens.
> No wonder Catholics are so supportive of and defensive about Trump and Epstein
Are they? Historically Catholics are less in favor of authoritarian movements, because they ground they identity in an outside person and international administration, and don't need to identify with the local administration as much as members of national churches may do. I don't know about the situation in the US, but the publications of the Holy See/pope don't sound like they are in favour of the Trump administration at all.
https://old.reddit.com/r/PhantomBorders/comments/19cx0ui/per...
http://econhist.userweb.mwn.de/konfess.htm
It is also unclear to me how your baseless claims affect doctrins of faith about the nature of eucharistia and eucharistic miracles.