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Comment by FEELmyAGI

10 hours ago

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I get your point

I think even if AI handles more of the CRUD side, you still need to understand what’s happening in the system once it’s running - this is where this project fits in.

To your point about framework use because of AI: As more applications are being built because of lowering barriers, I think it makes sense for full stack monolithic frameworks to be used more frequently.

  • >I think it makes sense for full stack monolithic frameworks to be used more frequently.

    Why? I believe full stack frameworks solved a problem for human coders, not AI coders. In fact they are only a limitation for AI going between programming language and runtime.

I mean for one thing your garden variety LLM had been substantially trained to handle Django. That is less context for it to bootstrap every time you summon it.

Just like rolling your shitty homebrew framework is a bad idea because only you understand it, the same is probably true with LLMs. Sure they’ll scan the bejesus out of your codebase every time they need to make a change and probably figure it out eventually… but that is just a poor use of limited context. With something mainstream, the LLM already has a lot about the universe in its training. Not to mention an ecosystem of plugins, skills, mcp servers, wizbango-hashers, and claberdashers. All there for the LLM to use instead of wasting tons of time, tokens and money perpetually relearning your oddball, one-off, rat infested homebrew framework.

Nothing has changed really…

  • There is much more engineering and testing (and probably AI training) in python and a web browser than there is in django. same with EG bash and linux vs ansible. that is what I mean by 2010s era frameworks - JSON/YAML easy wrappers with opinionated defaults and consistent interfaces. AI has no problem going from programming language -> runtime without human-convenient middleware. So I am NOT implying to create your own django on the way to creating your CRUD app. I think you can make a CRUD app based by listing all the features you want. Including, if you really want an in-band administration feature like phpmyadmin or django admin, you could have AI generate something that pipes any system command to the web app.