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Comment by somenameforme

1 day ago

notepad++ is great, though they have a dubious habit of dumping political messages on releases.

I don't have any use for Notepad++, but reading about this makes me wish I did:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notepad%2B%2B#Political_messag...

The possibility of software being a personal, creative, expressive endeavor (which often includes politics), something I believed in back when I was in university twenty years ago, is a feeling that's receded deeply into the past. That might be as much about me as it is about the world, but I miss it.

  • Imagine the result if everybody took to this mindset. Look at everything that's on your desk right now, and what percent of it was made in e.g. China. Imagine if they decided to just start jamming political slogans onto everything. Or for something closer to home, surgeons and anesthesiologists are largely conservative. [1] Imagine if they started signaling their politics. Many people, ironically often those most predisposed to try to make their own political views highly visible, do a poor job of tolerating the views of others. This sort of behavior would just cause complete chaos and disorder and make everybody even more pissed off at each other than they already are.

    And political signaling can also make you look bad even to the audience that might ideologically agree with you. For instance notepad++ takes a position on essentially every big controversial US geopolitical issue, but they are conspicuously silent on the Gaza issue. If they hadn't taken on any political positions, this isn't an issue. But when they take a position on every divisive issue, suddenly their not taking a position on one like this effectively is taking a position, but it's one that (for once) they don't want to say.

    [1] - https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/870192?form=fpf

  • I think that different people want different things. It seems to me like these days the idea of software being a personal expression is in vogue more than not, but there are always going to be those who want that and those who don't.

    That said, if software is a personal creative expression, one must be prepared for the possibility that some people aren't going to like what one has to say. Often when the politics angle comes up with Notepad++, people will say "it's his software project, he has the right to put in political messages if he wants" as if that somehow compels people to be ok with the political messages. The author certainly has the right to use Notepad++ as a platform for his political opinions, and I would never dream of saying otherwise. I don't want him to go to jail, or get fired by his employer, or anything like that. But I similarly have the right to decide that I don't want to see his political opinions and use another piece of software. You pick up both ends of the stick, as the old saying says.

  • reading about political messaging in any software should make you AVOID it, not "wishing to have it"

    the moment software stops being neutral, it becomes a target

    • I guess this is true in a professional context - you don't want your user's or company's data somehow becoming compromised because of your choice of text editor.

      But, at the same time, that's exactly the sort of thinking that's killed off that feeling I'm sentimental for. As a free human being, I don't want to live in fear of expressing my political views; and as someone who wants to view the software I make as a form of art or expression, I don't want to be afraid to express my political views through my software either. Should a writer avoid being political for fear of becoming a target? For fear of their books or readers becoming a target?

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Sublime is good too without the political rhetoric. It boggles my mind that windows users refuse the ways of vim.

  • Was hoping to see Sublime mentioned here. Super stable and available for nearly everything (Windows, Linux, Mac).

I remember a few years back there was an update where it would actually type the political message when you created a new text document. I abandoned it ever since.

The creator is also very selective about the type of politics he supports.

  • > The creator is also very selective about the type of politics he supports.

    Why would someone express political messages without being selective? It’s understandable not wanting overt politics in your software, but this line is odd.

And they were running on such a shoestring deployment that N++ was hacked by the Chinese last year. I'd stick with VS Code.