Comment by darkwater

I wasn’t a dev at the time but in my research of how we got here, Google started with more abstract mental discovery questions.

Then people got frustrated on both ends because some people got through it by just BSing, and people who lack any creative or big idea processing coming from the Microsoft Outlook team I imagine couldn’t comprehend a connection between abstract question discussion vs solving a math test. So they whined and threw a temper tantrum until the process was based around dev work (leetcode) but the Google abstract discussion was still the key part of the interview; you didn’t need to literally solve the leetcode question perfectly.

Then you needed to solve the leetcode question perfectly because people who BSed through that process by knowing just enough to mislead interviewers snuck in and turned out to be toxic employees. So you have to get the question 100% correct, character for character, or it’s wrong and you’re a toxic bad dev. But what if you memorize that question—- they’re all posted online now (thus defeating the purpose of it being an abstract discussion centered around programming)…. Well using statistics we’ll just determine that getting past 5-10 of them in a row is acceptable odds. And just in case that’s not good enough, we’ll have multiple prison guards in every interview. Each round new guards. If any guard doesn’t pass you for any reason or for no reason then you’re out.

Then people started writing books about this, making videos about it, selling courses. While they work at FAANG. They’re the ones interviewing so they can get you through the interview if you buy their course. Of course they’re not going to want to get rid of the process they’ve spent years mastering and make more money on the side than their full time Google job. If they had to grind and get past the first guards who asked light silly questions, why can’t you get through hardcore legendary no respawn no tools timed trial elite 4 group panel lecture interviews. It’s literally identical to what they went through right?

Even still, it was relatively justifiable for Google who had a legitimate reason to use masters of programming who could live-invent answers to these without using a mental hashmap lookup of answers. They can solve problems fast and make things scalable for big internet work.

But now that every company is cloning that, they’re picking and choosing to “improve” off of Google’s hiring process. Why should we settle for Google’s engineers when our shoe company website can do better. Fixed the flaw in Google’s process where there’s a discussion about your thought process by just fully automating the process. Live monitor solve 10 leetcode problems on your own time and if it’s not an exact character match then it’s wrong and you’re blacklisted.

New hires getting in can’t even get their foot in the door to begin to have an opportunity to invent Google Maps. All time that would have gone to exploring ideas like that now has to go to memorizing leetcode and basic day to day survival with every layer of badly cloned bloat like Agile Scrum meetings where the project manager is screaming at devs when they point a story “wrong.” Despite every sprint for the past 3 years not being able to complete because everyody’s overloaded. Google does it so we just cloned what they’re doing and made it better and the lazy devs are sandbagging. Just imagine how bad it would be if we DIDN’T use leetcode. Thank god the CFO introduced leetcode and personally sits in every engineer interview to let us know when they’re fake bad devs.