Comment by panick21

The “% of the federal budget” comparison is mostly a rhetorical trick. It can matter politically, sure, but it’s a terrible way to compare programs across time. Apollo happened before a bunch of Great Society-era spending and later expansions in the federal budget. Comparing shares across radically different eras is basically apples-to-elephants.

I spent some time trying to get solid numbers because I was actually interested in this.

Inflation-adjusted averages:

Apollo-era NASA average (FY1961–FY1972): ~$44.2B/year (2024 dollars)

NASA average over the last ~20 years: ~$25B/year (2024 dollars)

So over FY1961–FY1972 (12 years), that’s roughly $44.2B × 12 ≈ $530B in today’s money for all of NASA.

And what did that buy?

A NASA that was basically inventing the modern space industry:

- building launch sites (LC-39 etc.)

- building huge test facilities and stands

- building control centers / mission operations

- building manufacturing capability at scale

- building/expanding NASA centers

- building DSN and deep-space comms infrastructure

- massive amounts of fundamental research and basic engineering research

- building multiple human spacecraft programs (Mercury → Gemini → Apollo)

- developing major new engines (F-1, J-2, and a bunch of others)

- building multiple rockets and variants

and flying tons of missions, including 6 Moon landings

But of course, NASA wasn’t only Apollo. Even though Apollo dominated, NASA also did a bunch of major non-lunar work: Mariner, Orbiting Solar Observatory, Echo / Telstar / Relay / Syncom, X-15, and the beginnings of Skylab, etc.

A good summary is here: https://www.planetary.org/space-policy/cost-of-apollo

That article’s Apollo-only number is around $257B (in 2020 dollars) depending on what you include. I used 2024 $ above for budget. But its close.

Now compare to Constellation and its children (Orion + SLS).

A fair estimate for the cost to get to where we are today is around ~$90B (not counting suits or the SpaceX / Blue Origin landers). And what did we get for that? So far, a few test very incomplete flights.

Artemis/SLS is not doing Apollo-style clean-sheet propulsion development. It mostly reuses Shuttle-era propulsion (RS-25 + solids) with restarts/updates, rather than developing new engines like Apollo had to.

Looking forward gets fuzzier, but current projections suggest roughly:

~$20–25B more before the first crewed lunar landing (assuming the schedule doesn’t slip again)

then for five more landings, under optimistic “one per year” cadence assumptions, maybe another ~$30B or so

So you end up around ~$150B total if everything goes right from here. And note: this assumes huge savings because SpaceX and Blue Origin are spending lots of their own money rather than NASA building its own lander in the Apollo style.

So very roughly:

~$150B (Constellation → SLS/Orion → first 6 landings, optimistic) vs

~$250B-ish (Apollo-only, depending on inclusion choices and dollar basis)

And my basic point still stands: Apollo had to build the ecosystem, the infrastructure, and the foundational research base from scratch. A gigantic amount of that 1960s infrastructure is still in use today, and 60+ years of engineering and technology progress should matter. That alone should be worth well over $100B in “things you don’t need to reinvent.”

In pure execution terms, it’s hard to argue Apollo wasn’t on a totally different level.