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Comment by mc32

8 hours ago

If not developing domestic scientists but instead importing and developing foreign scientists is the way, why isn’t China doing it?

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haritha-j  7 hours ago

They do! I'm in academia and they hvae really attractive programs to get foreign academics in, they have special programmes just for this purpose. I don't think a lot of people still want to move to China, due to concerns about language, culture, quality of life, authoritarianism etc. but the government is most certainly promoting it.

roxolotl  8 hours ago

I think the point is “it’s fair to Americans that’s what counts” is a nationalistic statement. Maybe it’s the way to go. But it’s not refuting the parent who’s saying the missing piece is nationalism.

  • mc32  8 hours ago

    I mean what is the point of a government of its people if not to serve those who elected it? It seems bizarre that one would elect a government to benefit others whose governments could give a rats ass about us.

    • roxolotl  8 hours ago

      Again that’s a nationalistic point of view. For someone unused to thinking about the world as “us” vs “them” where the designations of “us” and “them” are defined by national borders it can be surprising and seem like there’s missing information. There’s not missing information there’s a values/worldview mismatch.

    • ImPostingOnHN  6 hours ago

      > I mean what is the point of a government of its people if not to serve those who elected it?

      How about to serve the people it represents and governs over, rather than the small, loud, fascist minority that voted for them?

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lukan  8 hours ago

Because china is nationalistic as well?

But me as someone who dislikes all kinds of nationalism, I obviously would do both. Develope smart domestic scientists in collaboration with smart international students/scientists. Networking, collaboration, strengthening ties, connecting cultures despite of differences, you know all those humanistic ideals you actually find a lot in real science. Focus on the common goal, progress for all of humanity through new knowledge.