Comment by antonvs
2 days ago
The points you raise are indeed wilful ignorance, easily rebutted.
I gave you a link which summarizes the subject well, with plenty of references. If you're genuinely interested in understanding the world, you would study that. But what you're doing instead is cherry-picking reasons to refuse to accept strong evidence. Al Gore, really? You're really scraping the bottom of the denial barrel.
Ironically, in your attempts to not be conned by grifters, you're falling for one of the biggest cons of all: the ongoing oil company attacks on anything that threatens the oil industry. If you're not getting paid by them, you're being suckered.
Aside from the reference I gave, you would also benefit from reading books like "Asking the Right Questions", by Neil Browne & Stuart Keeley; Carl Sagan's "The Demon Haunted World"; and "Thinking and Deciding" by Jonathan Baron. These will help you distinguish between rational thinking and rationalizations.
> So, spare me your shame game identity politics.
Nothing I've said even remotely approaches anything like that. I'm describing well-documented and well-supported facts, and pointing out that refusing to try to understand or accept those is problematic, and that by doing so along with millions of others, you're perpetuating major problems in the world. But your victimhood mentality fits right in with the conspiratorial mindset.
> link I gave you
There are glaring fallacies by omission in the article you hold up as proof, don't insult my intelligence.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1112950/
It never occurs to some people that systems they operate in and trust could be 1) total and 2) corrupted to some extent at every level.
Nothing I can ever say, no link nor reasoned oratory could ever change your mind because, as I said, I believe you are captured by the system. You are emotionally invested in it and you work for it for free.
To convince me, people have to work, I'm not cheap and I'm unforgiving after corruption is uncovered. Putdowns and shame have no power because power is everything, and I understand the games people play.
The money will drain away and chase the next incompatible bubble or grift like AGI. Climate alarmism will become too much work to grift off of and people on the sidelines will gradually stop worrying about it. It's a good thing.