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Comment by ezfe

14 hours ago

They’re literally not changing

It did change. They bumped $200 on the entire line. So even the 16GB version is more expensive.

I'd love to have customers like Apple. Bumps $200: "it didn't change!!!"

And no power adapter included.

  • You mean bumped $100. M4 MacBook Pro and M5 MacBook Pro started at $1599 with 512GB SSD.

    Now it starts at $1699, a $100 bump but comes with a 1TB SSD. Previously it would have cost $1799 for the 1T SSD, so it's a $100 bump on base price but you are also getting 1TB SSD for $100 less than before.

    • To me, this is kind of like Telecom providers giving you bandwidth headroom that realistically should have been there for a long time, but removing the option to get a cheaper plan whether you'd otherwise pay for the upgrade or not.

      Like for my last upgrade, I bit the bullet and upgraded to 1TB for the first time ever instead of base storage at Apple's absurd prices, so it's good, but if I'd not have been willing to spend money on that at all, they lifted the floor.

      My cell phone plan has been increasing every year by small amounts, but my usage pattern hasn't changed, and meanwhile they've restricted HD streaming using Deep Packet Inspection or whatever, so I theoretically have a 100GB full speed cap but can't practically use more than 20gb anyway, so they're pricing the bandwidth into the contract but I can't save money by getting a lower ceiling

  • > I'd love to have customers like Apple. Bumps $200: "it didn't change!!!"

    Try making a good product that people love?

  • The base storage increased as well, and the upgrade prices for RAM are the same, which is where the real issue was.

  • > And no power adapter included.

    To be fair, ever since the advent of high power USB-C PD that really, really is not needed any more, way too many power bricks are effectively e-waste.

    People already have USB-C power bricks and docks everywhere and unlike pre-USB-C generations, you can use them not just across different generations of hardware, but across vendors as well.

  • > It did change. They bumped $200 on the entire line.

    I wonder if that would happen regardless of RAM, e.g. for tariffs etc.

  • The EU forbids them from including power adapters. They're still included everywhere else.

    • EU doesn't forbid including. The new law requires there to be an option without the adapter. If the manufacturer chooses so they can have an option with and without the adapter.

    • I can buy a laptop right now close to home and it comes with power adapter.

    • Except that it's literally not true and people are repeating it for some stupid reason, I assume you just never actually looked it up - laptops are specifically excluded from that regulation, and in fact Apple does bundle a power adapter with their laptops, just not on the cheapest models.

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