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Comment by fny

15 hours ago

I feel like the push by devs towards Metal compatibility has been 10x than AMD. I assume that's because the majority of us run MacBooks.

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well_ackshually  13 hours ago

The only "push" towards Metal compatibility there's been has been complaints on github issues. Not only has none of the work been done, absolutely nobody in their right mind wants to work on Metal compatibility. Replacing proprietary with proprietary is absolutely nobody's weekend project. or paid project.

whizzter  14 hours ago

I think that might be partly because on regular PC's you can just go and buy an NVidia card insteaf of fuzzing around with software issues, and for those on laptops they probably hope that something like Zluda will solve it via software shims or MS backed ML api's.

Basically, too many choices to "focus on" makes non a winner except the incumbent.

pjmlp  13 hours ago

Which majority?

I certainly only use Macs when being project assigned, then there are plenty of developers out there whose job has nothing to do with what Apple offers.

Also while Metal is a very cool API, I rather play with Vulkan, CUDA and DirectX, as do the large majority of game developers.

  • whizzter  13 hours ago

    Honestly though, gamedevs really are among the biggest Windows stalwarts due to SDK's and older 3d software.

    Only groups of developers more tied to Windows that I can think of are probably embedded people tied due to weird hardware SDK's and Windows Active Directory dependent enterprise people.

    Outside of that almost everyone hip seems to want a Mac.

    • pjmlp  13 hours ago

      80% of the desktop market has to have their applications developed by someone, at least until software replicators replace them.

      Everyone hip alright, or at least those that would dream to earn a salary big enough to afford Apple taxes.

      Remember there are world regions where developers barely make 1 000 euros per month.

davidmurdoch  15 hours ago

Who is "us" in this case? Majority of devs that took the stack overflow survey use Windows:

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology/#1-computer-...

  • AdamN  15 hours ago

    That's the broad developer community. 90%+ of the engineers at Big Tech and the technorati startups are on MacOS with 5% on Linux and the other 5% on Windows.

  • pdpi  15 hours ago

    I think it's reasonable to say that the people responding to surveys on Stack Overflow aren't the same people who work on pushing the state of the art in local LLM deployment. (which doesn't prove that that crowd is Apple-centric, of course)