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Comment by davidmurdoch

15 hours ago

Who is "us" in this case? Majority of devs that took the stack overflow survey use Windows:

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology/#1-computer-...

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AdamN  15 hours ago

That's the broad developer community. 90%+ of the engineers at Big Tech and the technorati startups are on MacOS with 5% on Linux and the other 5% on Windows.

  • re-thc  14 hours ago

    > 90%+ of the engineers at Big Tech and the technorati startups

    The US 1s? Is that why we have Deepseek and then other non-US open source LLMs catching up rapidly?

    World view please. The developer community is not US only.

    • seanmcdirmid  14 hours ago

      You’ll see a lot of MacBooks in Beijing’s zhongguangcun where all the tech companies are, but they also have a lot of students there as well, so who knows. You need to go out to the suburbs where Lenovo has offices to stop seeing them. I know Apple is common in Western Europe having lived there for two years (but that was 20 years ago, I lived in China for 9 years after that).

      It wouldn’t surprise me if the deepseek people were primarily using Mac’s. Maybe Alibaba might be using PCs? I’m not sure.

pdpi  15 hours ago

I think it's reasonable to say that the people responding to surveys on Stack Overflow aren't the same people who work on pushing the state of the art in local LLM deployment. (which doesn't prove that that crowd is Apple-centric, of course)

  • davidmurdoch  15 hours ago

    Perhaps. Though Windows has been the majority share even when stack overflow was at it's peak, and before.

    • petercooper  11 hours ago

      It's not the whole answer, but SO came from the .NET world and focused on it first so it had a disproportionately MS heavy audience for some time. GitHub had the same issue the other way around. Ruby was one of GitHub's top five languages for its first decade for similar reasons.