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Comment by 1234letshaveatw

5 hours ago

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History really doesn’t say otherwise. Tensions were mostly cooling after the Obama nuclear deal.

Now the message we’ve told the world is: If you don’t want to eventually be at risk of the US attacking you, you better be nuclear armed.

  • because enriching uranium worked out so well for Iran?

    • Doesn't mean the direction wasn't correct.

      Take any American, and treat them the way Americans treat others, and they would be forming terrorist cells (gorilla war), building nukes, basically every single thing they could to fight back. To never surrender.

      Remember Red Dawn? That would be an American Response, to what America is doing.

      That is it basically. If shoe was on other foot, Americans would never surrender.

      So, why are we expecting others to give up quietly?

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History does not say otherwise. The US however has a history of attacking Iran, including murdering 190 people on a civilian flight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

  • Not sure why this comment is downvoted: the facts are established, as is (among others) the Mosaddegh coup d'état co-organized by the US:

    > On 19 August 1953, Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh was overthrown in a coup d'état that strengthened the rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the shah of Iran. It was instigated by the United Kingdom (MI6), under the name Operation Boot[5][6][7][8] and the United States (CIA), under the name TP-AJAX Project[9] or Operation Ajax. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mosaddegh nationalized the country's oil industry. (...) > In August 2013, the U.S. government formally acknowledged the U.S. (...) was in charge of both the planning and the execution

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

    Or the US backing of Saddam Hussein from 1982 onwards during the Iraq-Iran 8-year war of aggression, with “massive loans, political influence, and intelligence on Iranian deployments gathered by American spy satellites”. During this war, Iraq employed chemical weapons leading to 50.000 - 100.000 Irani deaths.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

    This (and other pieces of historical context) help very much understand the Iranian insistence on a ballistic missile program.

  • *290 people. Mistook an Airbus A300 for an F-14. Maybe it's an easy mistake to make on radar back in the day?

    • Back in the day, or even now. Kuwait’s US-supplied air defense shot down three US F15s this weekend.

History doesn't say anything, because there is no precedence Iran attacking the US assets first.

Iran has never carried out an attack against US military infrastructure that wasn't clearly retaliatory.

Look it up. Every case of Iran attacking US infrastructure has been in direct retaliation to the US blowing up some Iranian stuff.

Sure Iran has funded tons of proxy attacks by anonymous militias but these are generally not at the same kind of scale.