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Comment by tlogan

12 hours ago

If the United States stopped polluting 100%, global pollution would decrease by only about 10%. Probably even less, because much of that pollution would simply be exported through outsourcing. So what happens next?

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ryeights  12 hours ago

>If we are serious about climate policy, we have to set up trade barriers proportional to greenhouse gases emissions to limit this effect.

Consumption economies can incentivize production economies to emit less.

kergonath  11 hours ago

Please remember that we are not talking about stopping climate-related policies. The point here is climate-related science. And even if you are an arch-conservative and you assume (despite all observations) that you can do fuck all about it, knowing how things are going to be is very useful if you intend to survive, never mind thrive.

hnfong  12 hours ago

You're arguing a hypothetical where the US stopped all emissions 100% and the rest of the world isn't doing anything.

The reality is that China is aggressively pushing solar and electric vehicles, and the West is complaining about it. Meanwhile the current US president's maxim is "drill baby drill".

I mean, if we don't need to stick to facts, let's discuss the hypothetical scenario where I am a powerful wizard, and when I say a magic word and I can halve the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere?

OK, now where's my Nobel peace prize dammit??

  • tlogan  9 hours ago

    So we do not need to worry. China and India will cut their emission a lot and we US just need to cut a little. Problem solved. /s

    From 2022 to 2023 (lates report), China increased their emission from 11.9 Gt to 12.6 Gt. The US decreased from 4.79 to 4.68 Gt. So we (US and China) increased emission by 0.6 Gt.

    So we (the world) are polluting more and more and you are telling me that we are on a great trajectory.