Comment by observationist
19 days ago
It's the year of the Linux desktop. Break free of the walled gardens, there's no good excuse to throw your money away anymore. ElementaryOS and a few other projects have superb Apple flavored UI and UX. Apple just wants your money; they don't give a flying rat's ass about you or your needs.
Let liquid glass be your red pill - come join us in the real.
Not everyone uses Electron apps exclusively.
The cross platform scene is much different these days. Electron apps suck, but at least they suck equally across all platforms. And there are many Electron apps.
But a lot of people rely on Adobe, Microsoft or Windows-only, Mac-only apps. I don’t see that changing anytime soon, unfortunately.
Breaking free is easier than ever. You don't need walled gardens.
AI is making handling the edge cases that kept people locked in almost trivial. Any workflow, custom spreadsheet, specific OS-only app can be worked around, easily. Staying stuck on Apple or Microsoft is a choice - they're no longer returning value concurrent with the money they charge.
You're free to continue giving them money, but the reasons to do so make less and less sense each day that goes by.
I use Adobe Illustrator daily at a very high level and have about 25y of source files in its private format, as well as a bunch of plugins I rely on. How well can Linux deal with running a version of it written in this decade?
Inkscape is not an option, nor is anything involving importing PDF/SVG, those have to expand a huge ton of stuff that's represented much more compactly in an .AI file. It's about as large a difference as that between an executable file and its source code.
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"Adobe Creative Suite not running on Linux can be worked around easily" is something that people have been getting wrong for decades, but injecting AI into the premise is a new frontier of funny.
What's the AI workaround for Illustrator/After Effects/etc.? You're not suggesting generating vector art or video assets via LLM replaces these, surely?
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> Breaking free is easier than ever. You don't need walled gardens.
There’s nothing that comes even close to Photoshop. Same for a lot of similar professional tools.
> AI is making handling the edge cases that kept people locked in almost trivial
Not for anything remotely complex. Let’s see how that looks in 5 years, but I’m skeptical.
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I think people should stop replicating "Apple-flavored" user interfaces on Linux. That just leads to constant disappointment.
I'd rather Linux developed an identity of its own. I feel like keyboard driven tiled windows are the closest it has to that.
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We aren't given an option at my work, but if we were I'd still choose the Mac anyway. I love the Mac and that's why I care so much about this design regression. I like that it unlocks with my watch or fingerprint from a wireless keyboard, I like that I can push files and browser tabs between my Mac and phone just by sharing, I like that if I can push my mouse off the side of the screen and control my iPad with my keyboard and mouse with zero setup, or if I want one more monitor I can turn my iPad into that with 2 clicks. I could go on.
They just need to get back into the mindset that design is how it works. Not forcing some aesthetic into everything with the superficial idea of "focusing on content" as a backwards justification for making everything transparent cause someone thought it was prettier.
> They just need to
Linux is for people who want to get rid of "they". If "they" start screwing things up, you switch to a different "they". Alternatively, you become "they" by forking the project.
> Alternatively, you become "they" by forking the project.
This doesn't make sense for the vast majority of people.
Linux desktop doesn't have the vast majority of the niceties that living in the Apple ecosystem gives you. If I was going to rebuild any one of them for Linux, it would easily become a major project that would suck up all my free time.
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About the UI I become "they" but installing the GNOME extensions that I need to make my desktop look like 99% of what I would it to look and behave. It takes a few minutes to get to 80%, a few hours to get to 95% and days (a few minutes here and there) to 99%. Those huge menus and tabs on GNOME terminal eventually became skinny with a good deal of CSS and AI.
Do most people want to get through that research? Absolutely no, I don't expect many people to follow me into that rabbit hole. They can get the default or Windows or a Mac, no problem with that.
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You're kinda skipping over the 75% of my comment where I said I like everything else, including things Linux can't replicate.
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This is the Linux equivalent of “corpo speak”—as in, it’s complete bs.
The absolute VAST majority of Linux users are not out there forking their own distros or creating their own WMs. They, more often than not, are just fine with using whatever is being cooked up by the big names in the Linux space, people aren’t giving up the “they” just because the “they” is now KDE or GNOME.
Hell, even Torvalds himself has gone on record to say that he just wants his computer to work and is happy using Fedora and GNOME (the very definition of a “they” Linux).
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This year I switched from the Linux desktop to MacOS. I finally got tired of how unprofessional Linux operating systems were being run.
I think Liquid Glass looks good.
What's a good invoicing app for small businesses / freelancers on Linux?
What's a good calendar app on Linux?
What's a good e-mail client?
What's a good photo and image editor?
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