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Comment by Kim_Bruning

3 days ago

Extend spellcheck to asking questions like "does it meet HN rules" "how can I improve my writing" etc. Though these are the kinds of questions that do at very least still meet the spirit of the rule, I suppose.

Do you really need an automated tool to tell you whether you're breaking common sense guidelines?

And why would you want to "improve your writing" for an HN comment? I think people here value raw authenticity more than polished writing.

  • > Do you really need an automated tool to tell you whether you're breaking common sense guidelines?

    Lots of people break HN guidelines. I see it virtually every day.

    > And why would you want to "improve your writing" for an HN comment?

    Some people like to write well regardless of the medium. Why is that a problem for you?

    > I think people here value raw authenticity more than polished writing.

    Classic false dichotomy. Asking an LLM for feedback is not making your comment less authentic. As I pointed out elsewhere, it can make your comment more authentic by ensuring that what you had in your head and what you wrote match.

    Go and study writing and psychology. For anything of value, it's rare that your first attempt reflects what you meant to say. It's also rare that the first attempt, even if it reflects what you meant, will not be absorbed by the recipient. Saying what you mean, and having it understood as you meant it, is a difficult skill.

    • > Lots of people break HN guidelines. I see it virtually every day.

      Yes, and AI won't help here. People will use AI to better break the guidelines.

      > Go and study writing and psychology

      Is this a case where you should have read the guidelines? Maybe an LLM could have helped you here? Please don't send me study anything, you know what they say of ASSuming.

      > Some people like to write well regardless of the medium. Why is that a problem for you?

      HN is more like talking than writing. And LLMs don't help you write well, they help you sound like a clone, which is unwanted.

      > For anything of value, it's rare that your first attempt reflects what you meant to say.

      You can always edit your comment. And in any case, HN is like a live conversation. Imagine if your friend AI-edited their speech in real-time as they talked to you.

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  • > Do you really need an automated tool to tell you whether you're breaking common sense guidelines?

    I say this on behalf of all of my neurospicy friends… sometimes, yes. Especially having taken a look at the whole list of guidelines, I definitely am friends with people who would could struggle to determine whether a given comment fits or not.