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Comment by lelanthran

2 days ago

> The dynamics of content production are shifting hard right now. Things that used to signal something interesting are being generated in minutes with little thought. It's getting democratized, but also commoditized.

That's true, but it also means that Show HN has less value than it used to: the SNR is falling off a cliff :-(

I planned to post a Show HN for a new product I want to launch (all human written by myself, with only the GEO docs vibed currently), but not sure now that any decent/quality product will ever get air. All the oxygen is being sucked out by low-effort products.

That's what I mean about doing things to keep our heads above water. For example, we're restricting Show HNs for now.

If you (or anyone) have ideas about other pragmatic measures we could take, we're interested.

  • > If you (or anyone) have ideas about other pragmatic measures we could take, we're interested.

    Suggestion: Make it clear and explicit in guidelines and FAQ that this forum is for human conversation and that writing/editing post or comment by LLM or automated posting is bannable offense.

    Second and similarly, "vibe-coded" should have no place on Show HN and this could be made much more explicit.

  • maybe you guys already do this, but what about having a line of text near the submission fields that says "If you are submitting a Show HN post, please do not post an AI generated version, it degrades the quality of submissions (or it makes it harder for others to submit high quality content, or something like that)

    I know when I see those guidelines show up in reddit submission forms, i respect that because I see what the sub exactly wants..

  • Invisible text that will serve as a honey pot for LLMs is one thing to try. Imagine a comment where half of the words are marked as invisible by CSS, the other half has letters rearranged, but at the HTML level all the words look the same. LLMs will have to render pages which is a lot more expensive.

    • That won't help.

      1.) Rendering pages is table stakes for an AI headless browser tool, and 2.) most of the LLM comments probably come from copy and pasting to ChatGPT, not from autonomous agents.

  • > For example, we're restricting Show HNs for now.

    This is promising; in what way is it restricted? Are there any extra hoops for me to jump through before (eventually) posting my ShowHN?

    • You'll be fine. I don't want to say much specifically because it'll just end up as extra steps on some "how to promote your project on HN" checklist somewhere.