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Comment by aicoldtrail

2 days ago

I don't think I'm going to spend the time to paraphrase my worthwhile AI-applied work for such hypocritical rules.

So develop and fund and use AI but manually paraphrase things and don't cite AI?

It is best to cite a source and/or a method.

Do you think it is better to paraphrase and not cite AI?

I don't recall encountering posts on HN that I've wanted to flag as AI.

> It is best to cite a source and/or a method

Have you considered this?

If people do not cite their sources or methods when they use AI, then we will not know where error was introduced by paraphrasing AI.

  • Everyone that uses a search engine (with or without an "AI mode") is using AI and LLMs and software built and tested with AI.

    If they say "no" to "did you use AI", they're probably not correct and/or lying.

    But you may not cite or quote or link to AI generated work?

    > If people do not cite their sources or methods when they use AI, then we will not know where error was introduced by paraphrasing AI.

I think that you have rallied hate for AI to falsely justify need for censorship. If HN takes a "hate and hunt" AI stance, I will not contribute to HN.

  • Here are alternate possible rules for this; though I don't agree that making such distinction for every post is called for:

    1. No AI comments without a human in the loop.

    2. Please cite. Please cite when you use AI so that others can trace the errors and evaluate the premises of the argument. An argument has premises and a logical form.

    We should expect the frequency of AI errors like hallucinations to decrease and accuracy to increase over time.

    You should always consider peer review and getting another opinion regardless of whether AI or ML were used.

    Do you need to cite AI?

    If scientific reproducibility is necessary or important for your application,

    You should also cite search queries, search results at that time, the name and version and software package hash of each software tool, the configuration parameters for each software tool, the URL and hash of the data, and whether you used spell check or autocorrect or an AI grammar service.

    If you use an (AI) grammar service, you should disclose the model name and version, model hash or Merkle hash, and the model parameters.

    But most people don't even cite URLs here; it's just people making unsupported arguments.