* gave a Nazi Sigg Heil salute (twice) at a political even, on video. Famously.
* has consistently supported a German political party that re-uses Nazi slogans, minimizes or outright denies the Holocaust, minimizes the criminality of the SS
* frequently and consistently upvotes posts on X echoing white supremacist and Nazi ideology on his social media site
* owns the most popular site for neo-Nazis
To say "is not backed up by any kind of connection to reality" is actually verifiably false. I can't say anything about the other words, but there is evidence for miles that he is sympathetic to Nazi ideology.
And this is directly relevant here. It can't be ignored when you are talking about his business, or you have an elephant in the room. His personal flaws and meglomaniacal executive style are a package deal.
He is not wrong here dang and you are keen to scold one side of the bar more than the other in the last few months. This thread is a good example there wasn't even anything in the comments and it got a sticky real quick.
Not true in general on HN about one side only; it happens to all sides imho. But if you wanted to measure, you would have to normalize by the total number of occurrences on each side, and there is a lot of passive aggressive wording so the measurement would be easy to do badly.
To the extent that discussion of discussion is considered boring, perhaps this will get shut down too, but I think it was important to counter your claim.
The grandparent comment is from someone that has been on this site almost since the beginning. Far longer than you. They might have insights about the community that you do not.
I'm not using surprised by the moderation direction here (formality above all). But stubs tend to be rare and I've never seen a stub develop over 2 top level comments. Even the most blatantly political posts don't get such treatment (or it takes a long time do so).
I'm sure it's common for dead flagged posts, but it seems this story was too significant to pull over that smoke screen this time.
We're sadly well past friends of friends of friends coming in. At some point the only thing you can do as a non-bartender is to simply leave and never come back.
I don't want to say we're at that point just yet. But it's something that's been gnawing at me for a while now. I've certainly been disillusioned of this being a progressive tech hub interested in bettering humanity.
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* gave a Nazi Sigg Heil salute (twice) at a political even, on video. Famously.
* has consistently supported a German political party that re-uses Nazi slogans, minimizes or outright denies the Holocaust, minimizes the criminality of the SS
* frequently and consistently upvotes posts on X echoing white supremacist and Nazi ideology on his social media site
* owns the most popular site for neo-Nazis
To say "is not backed up by any kind of connection to reality" is actually verifiably false. I can't say anything about the other words, but there is evidence for miles that he is sympathetic to Nazi ideology.
And this is directly relevant here. It can't be ignored when you are talking about his business, or you have an elephant in the room. His personal flaws and meglomaniacal executive style are a package deal.
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It might be a nazi bar, but it's a high-class fancy kind of nazi bar like you'd find on the Hindenburg, and that's more important.
Jesus...
Does that mean we get to throw the Nazis out the Hindenburg's window, cos they lack tickets?
Dr.Jones (either one) is too uncouth to be allowed in here.
He is not wrong here dang and you are keen to scold one side of the bar more than the other in the last few months. This thread is a good example there wasn't even anything in the comments and it got a sticky real quick.
Not true in general on HN about one side only; it happens to all sides imho. But if you wanted to measure, you would have to normalize by the total number of occurrences on each side, and there is a lot of passive aggressive wording so the measurement would be easy to do badly.
To the extent that discussion of discussion is considered boring, perhaps this will get shut down too, but I think it was important to counter your claim.
I come to HN because I don't want to read reddit-tier comments like the above.
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The grandparent comment is from someone that has been on this site almost since the beginning. Far longer than you. They might have insights about the community that you do not.
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I'm not using surprised by the moderation direction here (formality above all). But stubs tend to be rare and I've never seen a stub develop over 2 top level comments. Even the most blatantly political posts don't get such treatment (or it takes a long time do so).
I'm sure it's common for dead flagged posts, but it seems this story was too significant to pull over that smoke screen this time.
We're sadly well past friends of friends of friends coming in. At some point the only thing you can do as a non-bartender is to simply leave and never come back.
I don't want to say we're at that point just yet. But it's something that's been gnawing at me for a while now. I've certainly been disillusioned of this being a progressive tech hub interested in bettering humanity.
Bettering humanity is a pretty good two word summary of what should be the meaning of life and everyone’s goal. Please don’t disengage.
>Please don’t disengage.
No worries. I was more referring to this community rather than this society. There are plenty of other "bars" on the internet to choose from.