Comment by nickff
13 hours ago
It seems to be a common view on HN that licenses and conditional access to websites should be ignored (i.e. WRT ad-blockers), but also that licenses on Open-Source Software repositories should be respected (i.e. WRT LLM training). I believe that holding these contradictory views is common, but the conflict would need to be resolved to come to a conclusion on how to proceed with LLM training.
There is no contradiction. Open source software licenses allow use without conditions. Ad blocker use does not distribute the modified web pages.
I have not seen any evidence that LLMs ‘distribute’ modified software, though they do seem capable of replicating it.
I fail to see how mass scale reproduction of copyrighted code isn't a form of distribution.
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The view LLMs should respect open source software licenses is not for replication alone. Models and generated code are derived from training data.
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> Open source software licenses allow use without conditions.
Don't a number of open source licenses notably involve restrictions?
You seem to be conflating copyright with access rights. Two very different things. Regardless of your feelings on either, there is no contradiction in holding different views on them.
Copyright is all about gating access, as media rights holders for sports well know.
Well no, it’s about legally gating the ability to copy so the original author doesn’t have to compete in the same market to sell his own book with every other bloke with a printing press and a copy of the book. Everything else is an addendum.
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