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Comment by lubujackson

6 hours ago

This is Apple's "Nintendo moment" when they realize they can package old hardware and win on polish and ecosystem.

> This is Apple's "Nintendo moment" when they realize they can package old hardware and win on polish and ecosystem.

The A18 Pro isn't even two years old yet; it debuted in iPhone 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max September 2024. What's funny is none of the PC laptops manufactures can match the speed and quality of the Neo.

The benchmarks for the A18 Pro are impressive; its Single Thread Performance beats all mobile processors [1]; remember this processor was created for a phone:

        Apple A18 Pro              4,091

        Apple M1 8 Core 3200 MHz.  3,675

        Apple A15 Bionic           3,579

        AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme       3,546

        AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 230        3,538

        Apple A14 Bionic           3,382

        Intel Core i5-1235U        3,090

        Apple A13 Bionic           2,354

        Intel N150                 1,902

        Intel N100                 1,893

        AMD Ryzen Embedded R1505G  1,820

[1]: "A18 Pro Benchmark" - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+A18+Pro&id=62...

  • Outside of some specialized benchmarks only Geekbench 6 is more or less usable for comparisons between generations or manufacturers.

Apple have historically moved forward minimum requirements for macOS and apps a bit aggressively. They need to slow that down now if they want us to take the macbook neo seriously.

  • I’d disable major OS updates and stay on Tahoe, and only upgrade if other Neo owners report it’s ok to do so. Ive been burned by iOS updates that made the phone sluggish enough times.

    Not necessarily a reason to avoid the Neo, for the right use case. If I had secondary school kids they’d get one of these, but something to bear in mind.

  • Good. So many software developers have gotten so lazy with RAM usage in the past few decades. I hope the Neo is a kick in the pants to get everyone in the Apple ecosystem to take memory usage seriously.

    More efficient software benefits everyone.

    • It's really quite bad. 'Telegram Lite' is using 1.16GB with just a single chat vs Signal using 193MB. Somehow vscode (including their renderers) manages to come in pretty low compared to even Apples native apps.