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Comment by dxuh

19 hours ago

Counter-Strike has been doing this for years. It's called "Overwatch" (even before Blizzards Overwatch came out). And believe it or not it failed to reliably catch actual cheaters AND got non-cheaters in trouble (both repeatedly). A very good player is indistinguishable from a cheater with a good cheat. Sometimes people just get super lucky for a few rounds and you might get judged based on that.

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cortesoft  3 hours ago

I was imagining specific things that are impossible, not just things that would be unlikely.

For example, in NBA2k there are a lot of players running around who are like 12 feet tall. The client has to render that, and the client could have a “if another client tells us their player is more than 8 feet tall, it is a cheater”

magicalhippo  18 hours ago

> A very good player is indistinguishable from a cheater with a good cheat.

I played COD4 a lot, though not competitively. I used to say that I had a bad day if I didn't get called a cheater once.

I didn't cheat, never have, but some people are just not aware of where the ceiling is.

The cheaters that annoyed us back then were laughably obvious. They'd just hold the button with a machine gun and get headshots after headshots, or something blatant like that.

  • chucksmash  11 hours ago

    > some people are just not aware of where the ceiling is

    True of everything. Getting good just lets you see the skill gaps. I've sunk a serious chunk of time into both pool and chess. In both I'd be willing to take a bet that I can beat the median player with my eyes closed (in pool, closing them after walking the table but before getting down on the shot).

    And in both of those activities, there are still like 10-20 levels of "person at skill level A should always win against person at skill level B" between me and someone who is ACTUALLY good at pool or chess. Being charitable, in the grand scheme of things I might be an intermediate player.