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Comment by zozbot234

6 hours ago

Isn't this addressed by newer PCIe standards? Of course, even the "new" Optane media reviewed in OP is stuck on PCIe 4.0...

No; the issue with the DIMMs wasn’t drivers. The issue was that the only people allowed to target the DIMMs directly were the xeon hardware team.

There was a startup doing good work with similar storage chips that were pin (BGA) compatible with standard memory. Not sure what happened to them. That’d be easier to program than xpoint.

As for the new PCIe standard (you probably mean CXL), that’s also basically dead on arrival. The CPU is the power and money bottleneck for the applications it targets, so they provide a synchronous hardware API that stalls the processor pipeline when accessing high-latency devices.

Contrast this to NVMe, which can be set up to either never block the CPU or amortize multiple I/Os per cache miss.

Companies like NVIDIA are already able to maintain massive I/O concurrency over PCIe without CXL, because they have a programming model (the GPU) that supports it. CXL might be a small win for that.