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Comment by cpt_sobel

14 hours ago

Polite to whom?

To machine. It just easier to be polite by default than split our language into two forms "I speak to human" and "I speak to machine". Because the chat interface is really close to what we see when we speak to human. Well, exactly the same.

I think it is easier to be polite always and not switch between polite and non-polite mode depending on who you are talking to.

  • I believe it's less about politeness and more about pronouns. You used `who`, whereas I would use `what` in that sentence.

    In my world view, a LLM is far closer to a fridge than the androids of the movies, let alone human beings. So it's about as pointless being polite to it as is greeting your fridge when you walk into the kitchen.

    But I know that others feel different, treating the ability to generate coherent responses as indication of the "divine spark".

    • I'd say it's more related to getting dressed for work even if you're remote and have no video calls

  • I get what you're saying, but I'm not talking about swearing at the model or anything, I'm only implying that investing energy in formulating a syntactically nice sentence doesn't or shouldn't bring any value, and that I don't care if I hurt the model's feelings (it doesn't have any).

    Note, why would the author write "Email will arrive from a webhook, yes." instead of "yy webhook"? In the second case I wouldn't be impolite either, I might reply like this in an IM to a colleague I work with every day.

    • >investing energy

      For the vast majority of people, using capital letters and saying please doesn't consume energy, it just is. There's a thousand things in your day that consume more energy like a shitty 9AM daily.

    • > investing energy in formulating a syntactically nice sentence

      This seem to be completely subjective; I write syntactically/grammatically "nice" sentences to LLMs, because that's how I write. I would have to "invest energy" to force myself to write in that supposedly "simpler" style.

    • It's just easier for me to write that way. In that specific sentence, I also kind of reaffirmed what was going on in my head and typed my thought process out loud. There's no deeper logic than that, it's just what's easier for me.

    • "yy webhook" is much less clear. It could just as easily mean "why webhook" as "yes webhook".

      It's also actually more trouble to formulate abbreviated sentences than normal ones, at least for literate adults who can type reasonably well.

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    • > investing energy in formulating a syntactically nice sentence

      It would cost me energy to deliberately not write with proper grammar and orthography. I would never want to write sloppily to a colleague either.