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Comment by throwaw12

7 days ago

Just like DEI, sustainability efforts, I predict we will see new initiatives for forced hiring of Juniors.

Implementation can differ (e.g. ratio of interns vs total headcount and so on), but it is the time for governments to intervene and force corporations to train people, humans are resource for the government, they need to polish that resource to thrive.

> Just like DEI, sustainability efforts, I predict we will see new initiatives for forced hiring of Juniors.

The professor's jobs are to TEACH students.

Research grants are given by governments mainly to first TEACH students and secondly to get something useful.

If they are not doing their job they should be fired.

That's not DEI or anything of the sort. That's common sense.

They can do their research at private companies if it's worth it.

  • > Research grants are given by governments mainly to first TEACH students

    Government's goal is obvious and correct, but if you have done a research and tried to get a grant you should know grants are very "political" as well, if you are researching a thing which is not trendy or takes another 10 years to yield results, but there is another lab who is telling we are researching LLM, it will be very difficult to get a grant even if you promise to TEACH/hire 20 students for that research.

    Justifying long term benefits is difficult problem

As someone who both recoils at DEI and is at least a decade too old to benefit from a policy like this personally, I have to say this honestly sounds like a great idea.

Both avoids the tragedy of the commons (why would a corporation pay to train a junior when they can just let their competition do it then poach the experienced senior) and gives more opportunity to a new generation that are frankly getting economically screwed over enough as-is.

i mean they could train them for free in universities. just pay them to go to majors that actually matter for the economy

  • Yeah, could be, some problems I see with this implementation:

    1. the wait time is too long for the company to fill a position, it is difficult to predict what happens in the next 4 years

    2. difficult to match the students with companies. For example, you are interested in CS, but company wants specifically React developer (assuming there was no AI and there was still demand), would the student change all their courses based on the requirements and live like a robot who is forced to take courses they are not much interested in. Now imagine when gap is higher between topics (CS vs React is closer, compared to MBA vs procurement, both are somewhat subset of same topic)

  • The point is that we will still need senior level employees, but the way fresh grads get to that level is generally through entry level positions, experience and mentorship. I don't think we can expect the university system to start pumping out senior level graduates.

    • We could but it would be something more like the medical system where education lasts much longer, and expected wages at the end are much higher.