Comment by locknitpicker
1 day ago
> I don't understand this mentality.
I think it's pretty easy to understand.
You have a service you want, but subscribing to it is a clear and direct way to financially support the advancement of fascist, extremist political groups and regimes pushing alarmingly racist and xenophobic policies not only in the US but also across the world.
Does your convenience justify a totalitarian shift? I don't think so. Do you think it does?
It's going to shift anyway.
Wisdom is preparing for the shift using any legal means neccesary.
Morals are a mostly internal issue anyway, not based on solely external actions. You know the whole stealing bread to feed hungry children idea.
What you are doing we teach our kids to be virtue signaling. Nobody is saying or at least I am not assuming you support Musk if you have Starlink. I simply think you have need for sattelite internet.
Just like I don't automatically assume your reason for eating meat (if you do) is to show your approval for modern slaughtering practices. Or if you wear clothing... does that mean you support exploitative labour?
Also FYI nobody really cares about American policies outside the US. We're mostly busy insulating ourselves from the effects we're perceiving.
More European food cause your food is now weird, more Chinese stuff since you don't manufacture much anymore, less media content cause they all want to teach our kids about more genders we know about.
But we do love Starlink! Fastest internet we ever had here.
But virtue signaling is a good thing! It's a way for us and for our communities to express that some things are distasteful and out of the norm. It should be uncontroversial to say "I don't like racism and thus I do not do business with known racists!" I'd even argue that's not really virtue signalling since it is accompanied by a direct action on the part of the signaler, but that's besides the point.
> It's going to shift anyway.
Not it's not. Most people don't want to be a Nazi. We defeated it once, we'll do so again. This time a bit earlier on I hope.
> Wisdom is preparing for the shift using any legal means neccesary.
Wisdom is knowing that people like you have always been there. There always have been nihilist you wouldn't trust with your kids. And that's okay. They'll just be lonely.
> Morals are a mostly internal issue anyway, not based on solely external actions. You know the whole stealing bread to feed hungry children idea.
People don't steal bread for many reasons. A big one is they want to keep a system alive that provides for them. As soon as that stops, because people like you stop caring, or because they don't have the means, their reasons for not stealing are reduced to "I don't want be caught". Again, I wouldn't trust someone who doesn't understand that.
> What you are doing we teach our kids to be virtue signaling. Nobody is saying or at least I am not assuming you support Musk if you have Starlink. I simply think you have need for sattelite internet.
By uttering a blanket "Everything is virtue signalling" you actually shout "I don't understand empathy" and you're effectively signalling "I can't be trusted" to anyone who wants to hear it. And that's okay. People will just not trust someone without empathy and move on.
> Just like I don't automatically assume your reason for eating meat (if you do) is to show your approval for modern slaughtering practices. Or if you wear clothing... does that mean you support exploitative labour?
No. And that's because slaughterhouses don't publicly advocate for animal cruelty. And clothing brands don't publicly advocate for child labour.
Musk advocates publicly to support fascism. He openly promotes fact-free voices that incite hatred. That's enough for people to stop cheering him on. If you don't remember how popular he was at one point, he will.
It's not that complicated. If you truly wanted to know why people hate Musk in particular, you only need one thing: empathy.
> Also FYI nobody really cares about American policies outside the US. We're mostly busy insulating ourselves from the effects we're perceiving.
The US is making it hard to avoid.
> More European food cause your food is now weird, more Chinese stuff since you don't manufacture much anymore, less media content cause they all want to teach our kids about more genders we know about.
Now you're rambling.
The totalitarian shift is coming from the attempt at being totalitarian.
Why did Musk buy Twitter? Do you remember how totalitarian-like Twitter was controlled?
Or do you wish me to forget since it was for the left?
The totalitarian shift is coming from people like you who feel like you have a total control on what is true and right. And from that standpoint you then declare others to be racist and xenophobic without attempting to truly understand their reasoning.
Not to mention the ever-increasing lack of tolerance for religion based views. Is it not your consitution that says that all men are born free, and are free to vote based on their OWN conciousness?
Yet they are labeled right-wingers and publically shamed and marginalized when possible. Even when all they want are federal repeals so each state can decide.
Do you not see that you guys have become the totalitarian ones? Wanting to impose how to view even life itself on others.
You know, the horse thing was probably a joke. He's probably not going to actually give you a horse. Right?