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Comment by alistairSH

7 days ago

Sure, but are C++ or Java really that outdated. AFAIK that’s what most schools teach. Maybe with some JavaScript as well. It’s not lime they’re teaching Fortran or COBOL.

And with the advent of AI coding, I’d hope they can spend more time on system design, as that’s where I’ve found new grads are generally lacking.

> Sure, but are C++ or Java really that outdated.

In what sense is either "outdated" at all?? Especially Java. Anybody who's paying attention to Java since about Java 11 would know that Java is very much a modern language at this point. I don't write much C++ myself these days so I haven't kept up with that as much, but my subjective perception is that C++ is also modernizing quickly over the last decade or so.

  • That was my point! Unless I missed it, those are the two most common core languages at colleges, and they're both very much alive and in use.

The irony is that if they taught COBOL today, those grads could likely get a good job working on legacy code.

  • I took a COBOL course during undergrad in 1998. Glad I was exposed to it, but I never did anything with it.

  • Yeah, for sure there are some edge cases, and COBOL is a big one, since there's a LOT of banking/finance stuff built on it.

    FWIW, my employer just deprecated our legacy COBOL (1-2 modules out of many), replaced with Java. It took years to make that transition.