There are horrific acts on both sides going back very very far. I grew up in a country with a relatively balanced media reporting on the issue and have tried my best to stay informed. Suicide bombings, bus hijackings, mass murders.
The inequality in force applied has still been a constant.
Also, the fact is that any peace deal has been made impossible by the hunting down and killing of anyone that could actually hold that conversation. All secular and left wing movements in Palestine have been eradicated in favor of Hamas, Islamic Jihad et al.
Likewise the Israeli extreme right wing now in power killed their own prime minister for trying to negotiate.
Also see the birth of Hezbollah as a response to Israeli invasion of Lebanon, which also gave rise to suicide bombings. These then spread across the region.
The reason Israel invaded was to fight the Palestinians there who were displaced by the founding of the Israeli state and the following conflicts.
Edit: the Palestinian groups there were doing raids in northern Israel and fleeing back across the border to Lebanon
It's a gordian knot at this point and i am very doubtful there will ever be a peaceful solution.
All I can think is that there is no chance of proper peace talks or any kind of truth commission since oct 7 / the genocide in Gaza.
The most likely outcome in my view is that Israel succeeds in cleansing and redeveloping Gaza and keeps settling and splitting up the West Bank until the Palestinians become nothing but 2nd class citizens in a singular state.
This will not stop the terror attacks.
It's all very depressing. I think both sides have lost.
Forcible accounting of the 200 nukes, their confiscation/decommissioning and crippling bloackades against the country illegally holding nukes and lying about them could be a beginning.
There are horrific acts on both sides going back very very far. I grew up in a country with a relatively balanced media reporting on the issue and have tried my best to stay informed. Suicide bombings, bus hijackings, mass murders.
The inequality in force applied has still been a constant.
Also, the fact is that any peace deal has been made impossible by the hunting down and killing of anyone that could actually hold that conversation. All secular and left wing movements in Palestine have been eradicated in favor of Hamas, Islamic Jihad et al.
Likewise the Israeli extreme right wing now in power killed their own prime minister for trying to negotiate.
Also see the birth of Hezbollah as a response to Israeli invasion of Lebanon, which also gave rise to suicide bombings. These then spread across the region. The reason Israel invaded was to fight the Palestinians there who were displaced by the founding of the Israeli state and the following conflicts.
Edit: the Palestinian groups there were doing raids in northern Israel and fleeing back across the border to Lebanon
It's a gordian knot at this point and i am very doubtful there will ever be a peaceful solution.
> i am very doubtful there will ever be a peaceful solution.
I wonder if there’s room for any actual discussion here. This topic is damned from the first upvote.
Curious what people’s thoughts are about a non-peaceful solution.
For example, do you think that other countries should send their militaries over to help one of the sides win?
Yes. Other Arab states should run Gaza after Hamas is destroyed to ensure Gaza is safe, wealthy and deradicalized.
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All I can think is that there is no chance of proper peace talks or any kind of truth commission since oct 7 / the genocide in Gaza.
The most likely outcome in my view is that Israel succeeds in cleansing and redeveloping Gaza and keeps settling and splitting up the West Bank until the Palestinians become nothing but 2nd class citizens in a singular state.
This will not stop the terror attacks.
It's all very depressing. I think both sides have lost.
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Forcible accounting of the 200 nukes, their confiscation/decommissioning and crippling bloackades against the country illegally holding nukes and lying about them could be a beginning.
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I try my best to keep a nuanced discussion going here and you obviously have no interest in this. Enjoy your flagged post.
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