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Comment by skeledrew

7 days ago

> Cuba could also, at any point, have given up on Communism

Why should they? If it wasn't for the decades of sabotage it would've been working for them reasonably. Should they succumb to the bullying from another country that hates their ideals?

Ah yes, the “Communism would be working out perfectly, if it weren’t for everybody else sabotaging us!” rationalization.

Are there, have there ever been, any examples of real communist states where most of the commoners are not in poverty?

  • Is there any communist state that hasn't somehow been disenfranchised by the US throughout history?

  • unlikely given there are no real examples of actual real communist states.

    To be clear, the classic example of Cold War Russia and the USSR - their founders were clear that it wasn't communism .. just an "interim socialist phase" on the path to communism.

    Still just authoritarian rule with an excess of epaulettes, braid, and big hats.

    I'm not pro communism (which ever book version), nor a fan of the USSR, North Korea, the Mao revolution, etc - but real communism appears to be as rare as real capitalism.

    The big problem seems to be broligarchies - small elite groups bullshitting everybody else from their seats of power.

    •   > The big problem seems to be broligarchies - small elite groups bullshitting everybody else from their seats of power.
      

      i guess it goes to say, a system is only as good as the people running it and all that