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Comment by wiseowise

5 days ago

Android as always in shambles. Shame that neither Google, nor ecosystem cares about Java because they’ve bought JetBrains kopium.

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pjmlp  5 days ago

Google basically played a J++ with Android Java, with Kotlin as their .NET/C#.

At least they are forced to partially update Android Java, now Java 17 subset, so that Kotlin can keep up with was is mostly deployed at Maven Central.

  • cogman10  5 days ago

    Pretty sure they did a J# ;). But I agree that Kotlin is their C#.

    The JDK and JVM has advanced so fast while android has been lagging. It's pretty frustrating, especially because google has been so slow to pull in changes from later java versions.

    A part of me wishes that android would just dump their hokey dalvik, ART, and other BS and just use the OpenJDK or a fork of the OpenJDK with whatever special sauce they need. A lot of the project Leyden stuff lends itself nicely to maybe someday being able to run real java on android.

    Edit: Apparently android is forking OpenJDK, since Android 7.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Nougat

    • pjmlp  5 days ago

      J# was the transition product to port J++ into .NET, I am quite sure.

      Not only I was there on those years, my employer was a MSFT partner that got to test .NET before it was announced to the world, so that we could have our products as part of the announcement event in Portugal.

      OpenJDK is cherry picked, Google only picks pieces of it, rather than full compatibility.

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  • cyberax  5 days ago

    > Google basically played a J++ with Android Java

    No, they didn't. Google happily used regular Java until Oracle played Oracle. Then Google stopped updating the supported Java language version and started diversifying away from Java.

    • pjmlp  5 days ago

      They definitely did not, it was Android Java from day one, and Oracle should have crushed them like Sun did to Microsoft, unfortunately Google was the geek darling of do not evil, thus they got a pass from fanboys.

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