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Comment by freetime2

5 days ago

I definitely view it as a red flag if a business doesn't have a website in 2026. It doesn't need to be a fancy website, but does at least need a list of products, business hours, work samples, and contact info. If they don't have that, then I view it as an indication that other aspects of their business might also be lacking in professionality or high friction.

That being said, if they have a strong presence on Google Maps with plenty of positive reviews, photos, menus, hours, etc., then that's usually good enough for me. At least the info on Google Maps is publicly visible without logging in, and reasonably well organized. But even then, I do often find myself looking for the "Website" link on Google Maps and feeling frustrated when there isn't one.

Relying solely on Facebook or Instagram feels a bit to me like having an @aol.com email address back in the day.

I haven't built a basic website in years, so I'm a bit out of the loop, but I would probably go with Google Sites if I wanted to set up a simple business page. It's got a WYSIWYG editor, it's free, it has support for custom domains, and presumably it will play nicely with Google SEO.

I'm curious what you're looking for on a website that you can't otherwise find on a well organized Google Map page or Instagram profile.

For a restaurant, as long as I can see a menu, I'm satisfied. Even if it's a menu on DoorDash or whatever other menu apps there are. Also I look for reviews on both Google and yelp. I know they can be gamed but I look for low reviews as well. Zero low reviews is a red flag imo.

For a professional business (dentist, lawyer, etc), I look for reviews and services provided. Sometimes this does necessitate a website, like I don't expect a Google map entry to delineate all services a lawyer provides. But if I'm just looking for a filling or a crown, then I can be fairly confident that every dentist provides that service.

If I'm looking for an auto mechanic, I just need to know that they service my car. I don't know much about cars but some places advertise that they work on Japanese cars and some that they work on European. I imagine most of them can work on everything though. I can usually glean this from their Yelp page.

I suppose my point is that not every business necessarily needs a website. Some could certainly benefit from one, but not every one.

  • > find on a well organized Google Map page or Instagram profile.

    Menu (with accurate prices - the ones on Google Maps is usually higher than the in-store prices).

    I don't have an Instagram account. I can barely see anything on someone's profile.

    > Even if it's a menu on DoorDash or whatever other menu apps there are.

    No - these are horrible! Often incomplete/out of date, and with really marked up prices!

    I recall going to a food cart one day. I asked for the menu. He said "Scan the QR code." And then added "Oh, but ignore the prices. That's for online orders and the actual prices are lower."

    OK, so now I have to whip out my phone to view the menu in a sub-par format, and ask you about the prices for each one?

    No thanks.

  • > I'm curious what you're looking for on a website that you can't otherwise find on a well organized Google Map page or Instagram profile.

    If you don’t have an Instagram account, you can’t find anything on an Instagram profile.

> At least the info on Google Maps is publicly visible without logging in

Ah yeah enjoy that while it lasts. https://9to5google.com/2026/02/18/google-maps-limited-view-s... found via https://tweakers.net/nieuws/244948/google-test-beperking-inf...

Websites are all independent and controlled by the owners of the restaurant or shop. They'll do what's in the interest of getting customers.

Google has a tangential set of goals: tying you to their product. Since they also own this gateway to the web, they can put their product at the top of every web search results page and slowly push the independent web farther and farther down. Nowadays, gee, business owners update their google maps entry more than their actual website. How strange that nobody was able to get a competitor off the ground either

It's so sad to me when we let this happen. That my mom doesn't know any better, yeah okay, but us hackers, whatever it is that 'hacker' stands for anymore

There's a business here, some kind of geocities for businesses

They don't need their own domain, it's all just subdomains or subpages like barber.businesshost.com or businesshost.com/barber

And nothing complicated, just an easy way to edit a single page, maybe change the colours and add a few images. Hell, drop any Markdown editor in there.

Specifically don't allow sub-pages, internal links, any kind of booking systems or webshops etc. Just a basic plain page with address, opening times, menu/prices if it's a place where that matters.

If they want anything more complex, they can go to Squarespace or something with all the bells and whistles.

You can host a service like this on a $5 VPS for a zillion companies, bill them $5/month and you'll be net-neutral on your first customer (- dev costs of course)

> I definitely view it as a red flag if a business doesn't have a website in 2026

from the article:

> If you’re a hair salon, or a tattoo artist, or a restaurant

these services definitely do not need a website

a luddite user just needs a way of getting basic information from where its already posted online. so this is a user experience problem, easily solved by an ai agent that takes whats posted on instagram, yelp, and google maps, and presents it to luddites in a way they are familiar with