We know for a fact that the US government has no evidence of aliens existing, because there's a 0% chance Trump wouldn't have blabbed about it during his first term.
From an outside-US point of view, both of these links border on the satirical. The DHS one, with it's no-longer-funded/maintained banner, and the entire content, complete with the quote is just eye-brow raising.
I wonder if anyone did read through the accordian FAQs, especially this one:
> How will exit bonuses be issued to participants?
DHS is working with Project Homecoming partners on the disbursement of exit bonuses. Illegal aliens will receive the exit bonuses after they land in the country of arrival.
The delivery method will vary based on country-specific guidelines and regulations. However, no bank account is necessary for illegal aliens to receive their exit bonus. In most instances, illegal aliens will collect their exit bonus in their home country.
I had heard of that but it wasn’t until you posted the link that I actually read through it.
My question after actually reading it though is simple - how does it prevent fraud? Like you just need GPS and a selfie to verify. No bank account required! Since the nominal case is undocumented you don’t have ground truth to check against. What is stopping someone from using an eSIM, OpenClaw, and an emulator from self-deporting thousands of virtual persona at $2600 profit
It just seems poorly considered. I don’t know if they really thought this through.
Objectively, which is hard to say because I’m just obviously not in this position, but if I were in the United States legally and I’m looking at three options…
1. I take self-deportation offer. At Christmas it was $3000 a person, but usually $1000, a commercial plane ticket anywhere, and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method. I can say goodbye to people I can sell my things. I can do this on my own timeline within reason.
2. I’ve risk it and trying to invade ice for the next three years minimum. If Vance wins, I need to make it to at least 2032 without showing up on any radar. I’m careful and looking over my shoulder constantly and work is a never ending dread.
3. I am caught by ICE. I have absolutely no claim to stay in the US. I can sit in a detention center while an NGO funded lawyer tells me that I do. And in high likelihood, I am sent back with no money on a cargo jet and I’m banned from the United States forever. This happens at any moment.
Practically speaking, I just cannot picture taking option two which could be three at any time. The fact is, I would know without a doubt, unfair or not that I am here legally, that my state would apply in any European country as well. I cannot fathom how option one is not the best option. Perhaps I’m too risk adverse.
I never get why people think these things will work. The only ones who take deals like this are honest people who are struggling. Criminals don’t self deport, they want to stay, not leave. It’s the same in Europe, they make laws to deport people for small bureaucratic details, honest people say “yes sir” and leave, but the criminals don’t give a shit, they just stay. So you deport the good ones and keep the bad ones, what the hell do you get from that? I guess the real point is that nobody in politics really cares about illegal aliens and criminals, they only want the power that comes from populism.
That thing in the lake in the China poster, is that some AI nightmare hybrid between a Japanese Shinto shrine and a Chinese pagoda (EDIT: no, it seems to be real: https://img.visiontimes.com/2022/01/hangzhou-ge36163601_1920... - it's just the color that looks more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itsukushima_Shrine_Torii_...)? And of course the Taj Mahal in the India poster only has one tower. But I wouldn't put it past the current administration if they really printed 100,000 of these low-effort AI slop posters. The designer probably got a boatload of money for them too, after all the extremely generous budget increase for ICE has to go somewhere...
I can't believe the official US gov posts these things. Between this, the CoD inspired war propaganda and Hegseth semi-irgasning on live TV while describing how they're going to kill and destroy everything "evil" we're really scraping the bottom. Is there anyone in these organizations who has an ounce of morality or humanity left? Or even just any sense taste really
I guess they need more money for an agency that burns it. Using conspiracies to goat the dumbed down public to get the ok to spend more money on a pointless Space Force.
What was that card game that supposedly predicted the outcome of the future? Was there revealing the presence of aliens in the deck? /s
I remember reading shady sites in 00s, where the other side claimed that govts around the world will get along on this idea and with help of elaborated holograms hoax will tell populations that aliens are here among us/are about to invade.
Here, in the mid-20s it's much cheaper to do that with help of AI. /s
A bot, sure, but also an extra terrestrial intelligence. Unless we’re talking a Stargate or The Magicians type of scenario where humans exist on a lot of different worlds. After all, they tend to ask you to prove you’re a human.
If they ask you to prove you’re not a robot, then we get into discussing sentient robots from other worlds.
What we’d be really interested in proving if we found proof of other intelligent life is personhood.
I'm not a gambler, but there should be a thing on those gambling sites on whether this is about extraterrestrial life or mexicans
Who said it’s a binary choice? Could have extraterrestrials taking advantage of our weak southern border to enter the country.
They're eating the cats![0]
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series)
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> Who said it’s a binary choice?
Have you not been paying attention to this administration?
Even better, then noone will be payed out.
Ask and ye shall receive: https://manifold.markets/benmanns/aliensgov-prop-bets (play money). I set this up so multiple can resolve and other users can add additional speculations.
This is so smart. Gambling with fake money.
I love the idea of polybet but would never invest into it. Gonna check this out
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Oh my god.
EDIT: oh it's play money, good website
If it was about extraterrestrial life, there would be a massive insider trade and Polymarket would've climbed. It's been static for the past day.
https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens...
According to Polymarket, there's a 16% chance US will confirm aliens exist: https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-confirm-that-aliens...
Someone with the ability to register .gov domains is trying to make a sneaky buck.
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It's because of the time value of money. Buying no is much like buying a bond.
It doesn't mean there's a 16% chance.
It's probably more attractive to gamblers when presented like this.
That's just gambling without any basis for reality though. Not sure if you're actually attributing any weight to random gamblers lol.
Taking the opposite side of this bet feels like a free 19% return on your money.
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Ah, the wisdom of the crowds (of gamblers.)
We know for a fact that the US government has no evidence of aliens existing, because there's a 0% chance Trump wouldn't have blabbed about it during his first term.
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et.aliens.gov, mexicans.aliens.gov
It can do it all!
> mexicans.aliens.gov
You mean that 2023 "reveal"?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37494876
ancient.aliens.gov
A possible collaboration
Who do you think built Chicken Itza?!
This gave me a good laugh. I think you got auto-corrected from 'Chichén Itzá', to 'Chicken'.
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New distraction is coming in! All eyes on this now!
Man, they really don't think much of their voter base or ordinary people for that matter.
Gas is $4 a gallon?
We have discovered aliens!
More like over $5.00 per gallon, but your point stands.
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Had been over $7/gal in Menlo Park
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/menlo-park-gas-prices-...
My gas was $3.09/gal this morning
Still too expensive but not exactly going to bankrupt me.
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Cries in UK $8 a gallon
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WA state. I would be ecstatic if it was $4.
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As Trump said, people won't need to worry about elections after 2024...
I wonder if Hitler ever said that in the 30s..
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It's just going to be illegal.aliens.gov :(
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2034000845503693180?s=46
There is this promotional campaign on-going, it could be related
https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome
It seems to be an incentive for voluntarily departure
From an outside-US point of view, both of these links border on the satirical. The DHS one, with it's no-longer-funded/maintained banner, and the entire content, complete with the quote is just eye-brow raising.
I wonder if anyone did read through the accordian FAQs, especially this one:
> How will exit bonuses be issued to participants?
DHS is working with Project Homecoming partners on the disbursement of exit bonuses. Illegal aliens will receive the exit bonuses after they land in the country of arrival.
The delivery method will vary based on country-specific guidelines and regulations. However, no bank account is necessary for illegal aliens to receive their exit bonus. In most instances, illegal aliens will collect their exit bonus in their home country.
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Yeah, like _that_ is going to happen...
I had heard of that but it wasn’t until you posted the link that I actually read through it.
My question after actually reading it though is simple - how does it prevent fraud? Like you just need GPS and a selfie to verify. No bank account required! Since the nominal case is undocumented you don’t have ground truth to check against. What is stopping someone from using an eSIM, OpenClaw, and an emulator from self-deporting thousands of virtual persona at $2600 profit
It just seems poorly considered. I don’t know if they really thought this through.
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Objectively, which is hard to say because I’m just obviously not in this position, but if I were in the United States legally and I’m looking at three options…
1. I take self-deportation offer. At Christmas it was $3000 a person, but usually $1000, a commercial plane ticket anywhere, and I can come back to the US upon following the legal method. I can say goodbye to people I can sell my things. I can do this on my own timeline within reason.
2. I’ve risk it and trying to invade ice for the next three years minimum. If Vance wins, I need to make it to at least 2032 without showing up on any radar. I’m careful and looking over my shoulder constantly and work is a never ending dread.
3. I am caught by ICE. I have absolutely no claim to stay in the US. I can sit in a detention center while an NGO funded lawyer tells me that I do. And in high likelihood, I am sent back with no money on a cargo jet and I’m banned from the United States forever. This happens at any moment.
Practically speaking, I just cannot picture taking option two which could be three at any time. The fact is, I would know without a doubt, unfair or not that I am here legally, that my state would apply in any European country as well. I cannot fathom how option one is not the best option. Perhaps I’m too risk adverse.
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I never get why people think these things will work. The only ones who take deals like this are honest people who are struggling. Criminals don’t self deport, they want to stay, not leave. It’s the same in Europe, they make laws to deport people for small bureaucratic details, honest people say “yes sir” and leave, but the criminals don’t give a shit, they just stay. So you deport the good ones and keep the bad ones, what the hell do you get from that? I guess the real point is that nobody in politics really cares about illegal aliens and criminals, they only want the power that comes from populism.
That thing in the lake in the China poster, is that some AI nightmare hybrid between a Japanese Shinto shrine and a Chinese pagoda (EDIT: no, it seems to be real: https://img.visiontimes.com/2022/01/hangzhou-ge36163601_1920... - it's just the color that looks more like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Itsukushima_Shrine_Torii_...)? And of course the Taj Mahal in the India poster only has one tower. But I wouldn't put it past the current administration if they really printed 100,000 of these low-effort AI slop posters. The designer probably got a boatload of money for them too, after all the extremely generous budget increase for ICE has to go somewhere...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remigration
I can't believe the official US gov posts these things. Between this, the CoD inspired war propaganda and Hegseth semi-irgasning on live TV while describing how they're going to kill and destroy everything "evil" we're really scraping the bottom. Is there anyone in these organizations who has an ounce of morality or humanity left? Or even just any sense taste really
That subdomain would go well with war.gov too :)
or dei.gov :))
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illegal.aliens.gov/deportations :(
quick-deport.aliens.gov for a shortcut link (pre-fill info with known browser fingerprints correlated to ID).
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Aliens tried to contact us, but Trump's DHS deported them.
they'd still be illegal so ya
We can finally be rid of that menace, Superman.
Probably related to the bear problems on the moon base: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3o-3pL79O4
If it's for aliens, why does it ask you to verify that you're human? This government makes no sense!
Interview with the Press Secretary
https://youtu.be/nCP3LZoxABs?si=2qspQFC-Imfwy2Ua
if u want to avoid domaintools captcha noise - https://client.rdap.org/?type=domain&object=aliens.gov&follo...
It's a cookbook!
And DNS hosted by Cloudflare. Who hosts DNS for other government websites?
All of .gov is contracted to Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/press/press-releases/2023/cloudfl...
cio.gov and trumpcard.gov are also Cloudflare.
Cloudflare has proudly protected Trump campaign websites for the last decade https://www.businessinsider.com/cloudflare-ceo-anonymous-ddo...
Okay or maybe they won the contract for `.gov` in 2023: https://www.cloudflare.com/press/press-releases/2023/cloudfl...
Of course it's gonna be the obvious NSA/CIA op hosting DNS.
They'd be stupid to use anybody else.
>obvious NSA/CIA op
there is so much you can legitimately be upset with cloudflare for, that i do not understand the need to exaggerate
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Remember, alien is also a term also applied to non-us citizen people.
Ah good. So the diversity program is opening soon?
I just realized that Alien Nation was a pun.
also alien.gov, why.gov, ai.gov...
Which will be released in full first, the X-files or the Epstein files?
Still waiting for trump.epstein.gov to come up...
proposal to rescind all naked .gov domains and redirect to .gov.us
Red herring?
aliens.gov is such a bait-y name. What is the requirement to register .gov domains?
Seen in the banner of any .gov website.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.gov#Eligibility
I guess they need more money for an agency that burns it. Using conspiracies to goat the dumbed down public to get the ok to spend more money on a pointless Space Force.
they are trolling us
More like distracting us.
They really want you to forget Epstein
What if Epstein was an alien all along?
adj. /ˈeɪ.li.ən/
coming from a different country, race, or group
My guess:
"Welcome to Aliens.gov -- a friendly guide and reminder to leave."
...
"Ya fired."
I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords.
impressive... very nice... now let’s see epstein.gov
More nonsense.
New Epstein files distraction?
What was that card game that supposedly predicted the outcome of the future? Was there revealing the presence of aliens in the deck? /s
I remember reading shady sites in 00s, where the other side claimed that govts around the world will get along on this idea and with help of elaborated holograms hoax will tell populations that aliens are here among us/are about to invade.
Here, in the mid-20s it's much cheaper to do that with help of AI. /s
Anyway, guess it's "some kind of" distraction, again? /s
Illuminati? That game was ripper. Good times…
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Fuck CAPTCHAs.
exactly what a bot would say.
A bot, sure, but also an extra terrestrial intelligence. Unless we’re talking a Stargate or The Magicians type of scenario where humans exist on a lot of different worlds. After all, they tend to ask you to prove you’re a human.
If they ask you to prove you’re not a robot, then we get into discussing sentient robots from other worlds.
What we’d be really interested in proving if we found proof of other intelligent life is personhood.
It's to keep the aliens out
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