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Comment by hmokiguess

1 day ago

Folks labeling "AI generated" might be jumping the gun considering OP described his process took him the last couple months and then some for this project.

Call it what you want, but I think this sits better with "AI assisted" and, perhaps, really well supervised full of the human intent behind of it. Then again, labels are strange, we call algorithmic and synthesizer assisted music "electronic" music these days and we still praise musicians who take the time through endless Moog / Ableton fine-tuning sessions to find the perfect loop patterns for their craft.

I could definitely feel the connection between the human author side of this post, thank you for sharing it!

> we still praise musicians who take the time through endless Moog / Ableton fine-tuning sessions to find the perfect loop patterns for their craft.

There are still plenty of purists that will not consider this a "craft". But it's always been that way. The electric guitar itself was a controversial music transition. Bob Dylan was famously criticized heavily for going electric.

But that was a long time ago, and people got over it. And they will again this time.

  • Dylan going electric was not about instrument choices. It was about abandoning the radical folk music tradition that Seeger, Guthrie, etc. had revived.

    • Bingo. The problem with this take is that the people pissing and moaning in the early '70s were right. Early Dylan sounds good. The texture of an acoustic guitar draws focus to songcraft and away from objectively bad execution. Dylan's vocals were always bad but they went from charmingly bad to just-plain-bad with the transition to electric. The bigger sound was not flattering for him. With 60 years of hindsight, folk still remains a largely acoustic genre because the sound is flattering to the rest of the genre too. That isn't to say that all folk should be acoustic, it's just that you have to come correct otherwise. I find later Dylan annoying despite loving his early records, and I was born 30 years after everyone stopped caring.

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    • It absolutely was about the instrument choice.

      Because folk music had strong norms about acoustic authenticity. Going electric at the time was seen as "commercialized" and "mass produced".

      We see the parallels with what some perceive as "slop" today.

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How about "AI ghostwritten"? That's a much closer parallel, and some commercially successful musicians similarly are "ghost produced".

  • Ghost produced isn't a good parallel here, the "ghost" in ghost produced comes from the NDA when acquiring a track from a different producer, which, most often is a human.

    • My impression was that the "ghost" comes less from the formal NDA and more from the fact that somebody else produces/writes the work and is uncredited for doing so. Then, the "author"/"producer" passes it off as their own work.

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