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Comment by charcircuit

6 months ago

When the heat dies down, hopefully this flag gets removed.

Why? It’s accurate and if the owner has chosen to do this for months now, why should we ever trust they won’t again? Nobody should ever use that site and every optional filter should block them.

  • There's probably a worthwhile discussion to be had about what it takes for a site in this situation to be removed from blocklists. An apology? Surrender to authorities? Halting the malicious activity for a certain period of time?

    Regardless, another user reports the attack is still ongoing[1], so this isn't a discussion that's going to happen about archive.today anytime soon.

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47474777

    • I suppose “evidence that the site’s leadership has permanently changed” would convince me. Whoever decided to put in the code that causes visitors to DDOS someone should never be running a web site again.

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    • That is called Chutzpah.

      HN and WP and the top communities (alongside with Reddit) using AT exclusively for piracy making all the legal troubles.

      Now the pirates require "apology" from a free service they abuse, threatening that they will stop pirating otherwise.

    • If there was an apology it could be considered, depending on the apology (i.e. is it earnest?). But so far that does not seem to happen.

  • >Why?

    Because once the problematic content is removed it should no longer be blocked.

    >It's accurate

    It is neither a C&C server for a botnet, nor any other server related to a botnet. I would not call it accurate.

    >Nobody should ever use that site

    It has a good reputation for archiving sites, has stead the test of time, and doesn't censor pages like archive.org does allowing you to actually see the history of news articles instead of them being deleted like archive.org does on occasion.

    • The site started doctoring archived versions as part of the petty feud. That is, what was supposed to be a historical record, suddenly had content manipulated so as to feed into this fight[0]. There is no redemption. You want to be an archive, you keep it sacrosanct. Put an obvious hosting-site banner overlay if you must, but manipulating the archive is a red-line that was crossed.

        ...On 20 February 2026, English Wikipedia banned links to archive.today, citing the DDoS attack and evidence that archived content was tampered with to insert Patokallio's name.[19] The decision was made despite concerns over maintaining content verifiability[19] while removing and replacing the second-largest archiving service used across the Wikimedia Foundation's projects.[20] The Wikimedia Foundation had stated its readiness to take action regardless of the community verdict.[19][20]
      

      [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today

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  • Because it's not the place of a DNS resolver to police the internet.

    • 1.1.1.1 is simply a free DNS, 1.1.1.2 blocks malware, and 1.1.1.3 blocks both malware and adult content. It's a service that does exactly what it's supposed to do.

    • If I specifically choose a DNS server that promises to not resolve sites that will use my computer in a botnet, then it is that DNS resolver’s place to do that.

    • This particular revolver is an opt-in service for users that want Cloudflare to block anything that Cloudflare designates as malware.

Unlikely unless their behaviour changes.

They arent being flagged because of the attention.