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Comment by Y-bar

11 hours ago

Why would I be unhappy? Consider this:

I drive to the mall.

I plug in the slow free charger (maybe ~3500W) as opposed to the paid one at >20000W.

Two hours later I have, say, about 7kWh topped up on my battery.

I now have restored about 40km range, so my 30km drive to and from the mall would be entirely restored.

A non-grid tied charger cannot be depended on. You might get 40km worth of charge. You might also get zero if it's cloudy or the sun is behind a building.

You might say, oh this is fine, anything is better than nothing. But someone cheaper than you will think the same thing, and they will leave their car plugged into the charger all day long, because the cost of free surpasses everything. And it means that the charger will never be available.

Even better if we could somehow trunk my space’s 3500W of panels with the ones covering the combustion-driven car next to me. And the empty space to my other side…

You missed the most important part, in which you pay for all this (directly or indirectly).

  • As opposed me paying indirectly and directly for all the subsidies for the petroleum industry?

    > Global explicit subsidies for fossil fuels amounted to around $1.5 trillion in 2022. […] The $7 trillion figure includes the social and environmental costs of fossil fuels.

    https://ourworldindata.org/how-much-subsidies-fossil-fuels

    • The article you linked literally talks about fuel subsidies in the UK aimed at reducing the final cost of electricity for households and its vulnerability to rising of fissile fuel prices.

      In the UK. A country that was one of the first to transition to renewable energy sources and which currently has one of the most expensive electricity prices. And then, to these "subsidies", losses from "road incidents" are added as other subsidies for fossil fuels.

      Sorry, this is very difficult to perceive as an argument, it is literally designed for degenerates without education, who have difficulty understanding the meaning of words put together in sentences, and who, for this reason, evaluate any text by the presence of already familiar slogans in it

  • Why do you think anybody was operating under the assumption that this was free? But keeping your car topped up now is hardly free either, especially lately, so the question is really about cost comparison. And that's before you get into any externality costs.

    • > so the question is really about cost comparison

      Yes, and I was talking specifically about the cost of this difference.