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Comment by SoftTalker

4 months ago

Does very little to offset things like no power for hospitals, refrigerated food distribution, manufacturing of almost anything.

Also the sewer system backs up after about a week because the pumping and lift stations need power to operate.

The water system shuts down because the tanks aren't reserve supply they're pressure support.

And solar plus storage will keep you running for maybe a week if you're conservative and mostly don't use anything...which doesn't help you if it's months till replacement.

  • solar + storage + water sheath fireplace can run pretty much till you run out of wood.

    But yes, unless you spend serious money (own sewer, water from underground etc), it's basically solution for "the power pole is down", not any grid wide problems.

    • > unless you spend serious money (own sewer, water from underground etc)

      It is often the case (at least where I live) that having a septic system and well is far more economical than obtaining a property with access to city utilities.

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    • I mean "run out of wood" is the problem though. There aren't that many trees, certainly not enough for everyone in a region to start doing it.

      You'd be better off with an air sourced hear pump for hot water anyway - the one in my house uses less power then my dehumidifier.

> no power for hospitals

Which have days worth of backup generator power

> refrigerated food distribution

Do you think refrigerated trucks trail big long extension leads to a socket somewhere?

  • Refrigerated trucks pick up from refrigerated distribtion centers/warehouses.

    • Have a wee guess at what the big boxy things beside the distribution centres with "AGGREKO" written on the side in big orange letters, a big exhaust pipe sticking out the top, and seriously massive electrical connections at one end are.

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  • Way stations still need power to accept and refrigerate shipments. Distribution isn't just on trucks - although they could act as a small stopgap that also prevents them from making deliveries while being used as storage.