Comment by jakoblorz
15 hours ago
What if you „lose“ your google / apple account, like this sanctioned judge of the international criminal court? Crazy to imagine that we are still baking in dependency on US providers in european societies, even though there is clear indications we should be doing the opposite?
You wouldn't even have to be a high profile target like a sanctioned judge. Simply getting your account banned by some automated process that marked you as "suspicious" will basically render you excluded from society.
It is absolutely insane to put this amount of power in 2 foreign companies that will be able to destroy your life with zero reason, oversight, or due process.
This is not a hypothetical problem and you don't need to be deliberately targeted. It actually happens to normal people. And if it does you have absolutely zero recourse.
Source: I have a banned Google account (it's over 20 years old at this point). I know the password, but Google doesn't let me log into it. Every few years I try to unsuccessfully recover it.
If you have a Google account and having it banned would be a problem for you here's my advice: migrate. Right now. You never know when one of their bots will deem you a persona non grata.
Can't you just create a new account?
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Then you can't take a Waymo any more.
Amusingly, the points on this posting have been going up and down quite a bit. Range is -1 to 2 so far.
The point here is that Waymo requires either an Android account or an Apple account to log into their phone app. Lose that and you cannot take a Waymo. This may be worth a formal complaint to the California Public Utilities Commission, because Waymo is regulated as a common carrier.
California civil code section 2170:
"A common carrier must, if able to do so, accept and carry whatever is offered to him, at a reasonable time and place, of a kind that he undertakes or is accustomed to carry. A common carrier must not give preference in time, price, or otherwise, to one person over another."[1]
This is the core of what it is to be a common carrier. An airline can't require that you join their frequent flyer plan to fly.
[1] https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/civil-code/civ-sect-2169/
> Crazy to imagine that we are still baking in dependency on US providers in european societies
As long as the capital city is in Washington, this is normal.
Not sure I‘m getting what you are saying - us providers‘ capital city is always in Washington DC, no?
Sorry if I’m misunderstanding something here
He's saying the EU's capital city is Washington.
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This tone is not very suitable for HN. I’m sure you could start a better discussion if you gave it a proper try.