Although I have to say I am sometimes surprised how much people burn through their usage. I was briefly on a Claude Max plan and then switched to a pro plan and still almost never hit my limit.
If my math is right, assuming a mix of around 70% cached tokens, 20% input tokens, and 10% output tokens, it breaks even with the old pricing at around 130k tokens per message, or about 13k output tokens per message.
With the hidden reasoning tokens and tool calls, I have no idea how many tokens I typically use per message. I would guess maybe a quarter of that, which would make the new pricing cheaper.
Ultimately, we need to know the true cost of this technology to evaluate how effectively or ineffectively it can displace the workforce that existed before it.
Although I have to say I am sometimes surprised how much people burn through their usage. I was briefly on a Claude Max plan and then switched to a pro plan and still almost never hit my limit.
I just hit my weekly Max limit 3 days in...
They changed the limits out from under us, and bugs cause usage to spike like crazy.
So many folks are just burning tokens just to burn them.
The infrastructure build out just can't keep up with it.
Almost as though selling below cost or over capacity will backfire if people find unexpected uses for your product.
Management demands it
It’s Joever.
Good!
It’s kind of a rug pull to effectively raise the price like 10x. I can’t afford to finish some of my projects with this change
Is writing it by hand the old-fashioned way not on the table?
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Sounds like saying my plan to get rich buying up $10 bills for $1 hit kind of a rug pull in that people aren't selling them for that price anymore.
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If my math is right, assuming a mix of around 70% cached tokens, 20% input tokens, and 10% output tokens, it breaks even with the old pricing at around 130k tokens per message, or about 13k output tokens per message.
With the hidden reasoning tokens and tool calls, I have no idea how many tokens I typically use per message. I would guess maybe a quarter of that, which would make the new pricing cheaper.
I don't think you can call it a rug pull when everybody saw it coming from miles away
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That is okay.
Ultimately, we need to know the true cost of this technology to evaluate how effectively or ineffectively it can displace the workforce that existed before it.
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There are plenty of good models on Openrouter that are very cheap, maybe it's time to experiment with alternatives.
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subsidies always lead to waste.
This is false.
Two examples:
- https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/three-years-after-tria...
- https://record.umich.edu/articles/public-school-investment-r...
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